I got these big spinners for snaggen plain simple, tough as hell is all I got to say with one hell of a drag. I ant had a problem out of em yet -- I dont use clickers but on the 309 I had for 10 years. But man I can cast with the emcast 5000 reels 100yd+ I used em for snaggen spoonbill, fishen for cats and stripers. For 70 bucks I think they are awsome. They built for saltwater and tough as hell. Got the fish on my albums to back it up. I mated em up with a BP 10ft Power Plus Offshoreangler surf rod with good 25lb mono. This combo rocks.