I mainly fish at pomona, osage state lake, and melvern. I am sick and tired catching just channels! I wana step up with the big boys and catch some flatheads! i've never caught one before. (pretty bad huh? lol) im only 18 and havent been fishing for cats that long. i know that i should of been fishing for them a HELLUVA long time ago. I was mainly a bass/ crappie fisherman till about 2 years ago when I met neighbor he was in his late 80's and i looked up to him as a grandfather but hes no longer with us now. he was by FAR a professional catfish angler. he knew all these different things that caught fish. he was the one who got me into catching cats. he showed me how to bait the trebles with liver and tie them down with sewing thread. which i have never forgotten to this day. :embarassed: i feel bad about posting this thread because i gave a guy advice about getting bites at osl with the cliche bait chicken livers, but with using the 3 way rig. I AM BY FAR NOT A PROFESSIONAL! But i do know that works at OSL because me and my ole fishin buddy we used that. nothing else. we got bites. and til this day that is the only thing that gets me bites there but newayz. :smile2: my question is. what kind of setup would i use if i used bluegill or shad as my bait, any suggestions? what kind of hooks and weights would i need to use, and how would i hook the fish? and possibly where at should i fish at? middle of the lake? Where at?... PLEASE HELP ME! IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! :big_smile: I AM SUCH A NOOBY! LOL!