well i guess the general area may be better but most of my logsplitter and saw threads i put here so why not. if its that important thell move it. any ways i got a new saw. used new to me. another echo. im quickly becoming a fan of echo. nothing against stihl. just got a better deal and longer warrenty with echo. this one is my companion saw to the 440 45 cc 18" one i bought new. and it has a 20" for it now too. this one is an echo 305. 30.1 cc accepts 12-14" bar and blade. sort of a bad experience from ebay. it was listed with a $99 buy it now. no bidding. buy it or not deal. i watched it for a week. last day she lowered it to $70. i hit it. it had no bar or blade and was listed as in like new condition and runs great. its $199.99 new. after 3-4 days i asked if it had been shipped. not yet response. then the next day said it was shipped but no ups notification and she said she would figure it out. after 7 days (this past sun) i said if it wasnt here this week i would file a fraud with paypal and ebay. low and behold i got ups e-mail mon. she just hadnt shipped it. so it was scheduled for delivery today and i have a tree to cut this weekend. last night i checked on the tracking. it was in il. but she had shipped it to my p.o. box and not my st addy wich is listed clearly in my paypal acct.:confused2: so i sent an e-mail to ups. they informed me it would be held at the hub 5 days and a post card would be sent to me. so at noon i checked on it. it was sent out a 6am and was back at the hub. so i had to drive 15 miles to pick it up:angry: so add $10 to the $70 and $15 s/h i paid. any how done and here. and it fired right up after a fill up and a few pumps on the bulb. runs like a new one. and i was gonna go after a new bar and chain but there was an old craftsman at my grandpas that was junk. it has a 12" bar on it. and it fit. pretty sharp chain too. so i did some cutting with it today. no problems. any how just posting this to inform that echos have done me well since my purchase. ive used the big one alot so far with not a glitch. my uncle that bought his same week before i got mine said hes real happy with his too. i remember not to many here said they had had to much experience with echo saws. ive never used a husky and my time with a stihl is minimum from using the 20" the villiage has helping my grandpa cut some tele-poles. but anyone intrested in a saw dont be afraid of echo. i would now reccomend them. with my lil one i have a 12-14" and a 16" poulen 34 cc and the big 45cc echo with an 18-20". so i have the capacity for 5 saws. its the one in the middle. now i got to get a case.