Advice from an Israeli Agent

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  1. fishstick

    fishstick New Member

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    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.















    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.












    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.












    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!






    Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.












    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time. The interlands (Wyoming, Montana, etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.











    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.











    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.











    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's, Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase!











    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.








    Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.



    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City, this was days, in some cases!)





    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel.

    Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist




    attack, EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.
















     
  2. JEFFRODAMIS

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  3. jdstraka

    jdstraka Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Well for a Thought we can start by keeping a better check on these middle eastern folks,The Hell with there rights them folks didn't fight and die for our freedoms and Don't have ANY right to them!!!! Those that did well I'm Sorry and if your country was so Great why did you leave?? It Ain't Bubba and Billy Bob that's trying to kill us Americans!!!!! I just call Um like I see Um. J.D.
     
  4. Ol Man

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    I had read about that here
     
  5. gardengrz

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    let me see, did i load five ? or did i load six ?:skeleton:
     
  6. Esox Hunter

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    I guess the sales of Walkie-Talkies will go sky-high then.

     
  7. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Why is it that when this kind of blatantly false propaganda comes around, Fox Noise is right in the middle of it?
     
  8. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Because those who choose to start lies, do not like Fox News!
     
  9. Swampfox.

    Swampfox. New Member

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    mossad and the Israeli security forces are no joke. you can bank on the fact that they know what they are talkin about and know how to handle bussiness. interesting post, and that movie they made about the plo takin hostages at the oylimpic game is a fav Fishstick. thats how you handle bussiness. one by one.
     
  10. fishstick

    fishstick New Member

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    blatantly false---now that's intelligence on parade
     
  11. THE PAN MAN

    THE PAN MAN New Member

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    thats correct one by one.
     
  12. THE PAN MAN

    THE PAN MAN New Member

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    only load 5 keep the empty hole at the chamber. that way if ya drop it it dont go off by accident. then when u pull th ehammer u got a live round. nobody knows but u if there is 5 or 6. me tho. there is 5 just in case.
     
  13. kawriverrat

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    Come in my house with ill intent........ I aint worried one bit whats under the hammer of any of my guns....niether are my Dogs!
    How guns are loaded when needed, should not be an issue when they are needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. BubbaCat

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    7 AND I AIN'T DROPPING IT .
     
  15. Kutter

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    I have owned guns for 50 of my 55 year. (Yes, I was five when I got my first 22 cal rifle) Not one time have I ever, dropped a gun. I was raised in a home where all guns were loaded at all times. My dad was of a mind that only the "empty" guns can accidentally get folks killed. If everyone knows they are all loaded, everyone will always treat them as loaded. Smart man he was.
     
  16. THE PAN MAN

    THE PAN MAN New Member

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    so complete un expeceted someone comes in ur house while ur dead asleep even if u got dogs it can be done easy. if somebody is watchn u then they can and will do it. they are by ur bed side and u get woke up to that. when that gun gets knocked outta ur hands and it goes off and hits u! then what. i dont and never have dropped mine either. but prepare for the worst because u dont know what could happn. u might say my dogs or i wont drop well how do u know. u dont. so better safe than sorry.
     
  17. THE PAN MAN

    THE PAN MAN New Member

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    i also pratice that my guns are always loaded. and i also practice be prepared for the un expected. so good luck to u guys that think that ur dog is gonna get u up or u think ur perfect. cause if somebody wants it bad enough there gonna do it cause they dont know u. and they dont care. so be carefull. i hope it never happns to any of us. i also we all stay safe. just be prepared for the worst. a 22 with a slincer screwed on it will take a dog out easy. so look out dogs aint always gonna save ya. i got a rot. and a chow. and an ankle biter i have woke up to things they havent heard.