I wanted to say thanks to Eric for the great Flathead article in the A.C.A.T.S mag. I really like the photo of the rig, man Eric I'm still trying to except that 10/0 King Kahle for the bluegulls. I love it for carp as you suggested because it looks and feels right and I'm going to try it more with the gills. I do agree with the thought that the flats will suck it down unbothered as they do with the spiny ray fish. I haven't been able to find the no-roll sliders but I would like to get some, although I fish in no current situations a lot they might be better for getting out of rock hang-ups. Thanks again for the great article and my boys enjoyed it too.