Okay lets put our thoughts down here and save the poll for the poll. I thought putting the poll up would help everyone get a voice in. Not everyone is going to agree. So why not go with the poll this year and then at the gathering everyone that shows can discuss where to have it in two years and then throw all the names on the table and then put it to a vote then and there. Because frankly the ones that show up should be the main ones that decide on the next one. All I know is that here it isn't even Jan and it already feels like last year before the gathering. Don has told me personally he's not even sure if he's going to make it so why is he voting, I'm not picking on you Don by no means, just a thought that a person could say. So at this point I'm just going to wait and see how the poll works out and then I'll see where it goes down. So throw your thoughts out here and talk all you like but I think we should go with the poll. We already know that Zach changed his vote from BO to Calumus so as of right now Calumus and Merritt are tied.