2 ft radius cast net!

Discussion in 'All Catfishing' started by bigpapa15206, Sep 24, 2005.

  1. bigpapa15206

    bigpapa15206 New Member

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    well the game commision has been busting my chops hard (i dont they they like catfisherman) asking me to see my license like 4-5 a week. I mean cmon gimme a break either talk about fishing or leave me alone. well i was told my 3ft radius cast net was "TOO BIG". I need to find one that is 2 ft radius (cannot exceed 4ft in diameter) i just think the officer doesnt know how to measure them. I said to her "honestly, the reason you cant have a big net is to keep you from taking to many shad, right?" HER "yes" ME" well whats the difference how big my net is if i cant take more than 50 a day?" HER " ................I gave u a warning and if i catch u using it again i will fine you :mad: " ME :crying: then :mad: " I need help please!!!
     
  2. BKS72

    BKS72 New Member

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    That's tough, man. Gonna be hard getting bait with a 2 footer. Maybe keep a dozen Krispy Kremes with you when you're netting? :)
     

  3. bigpapa15206

    bigpapa15206 New Member

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    lol, took me a few minute to get it but thats funny. there are pretty big schools where i get em so it shouldnt be a problem (its actually 4 foot diameter) in like 6 inches of water. yeah but she told me to try and seine for them. she must be crazy they are so fast and as soona s they see you its too late.
     
  4. flatheadhunterx

    flatheadhunterx Active Member

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    call the local dnr office to verify what she is saying. she may be confused or wrong.
     
  5. flatheadhunterx

    flatheadhunterx Active Member

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    i dont think i have ever seen a two ft net lol
    is that a 1 footer that opens to two ft or a two footer that opens to 4 ft
     
  6. Catwagon

    Catwagon New Member

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    Math is a simple thing but I've met a few folks with badges that don't know what a simple "radius" is. :confused:

    Diameter is measured straight across the whole width of the net.
    Radius is from the very center point out to any edge of the net.

    So, if the radius is two feet, then the diameter is four feet. Pretty simple.

    If you're going for shad with a two foot radius net then you'd better be darn good at it. They're fast little critters and using such a small net to catch them would be a pretty big job. It would seem to me that if your state limit is fifty then it really shouldn't matter how big the net to catch them is.

    Steve
     
  7. Gone fishin 4 kittys

    Gone fishin 4 kittys New Member

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    Phil what are we gonna do??? :frk-big: :frk-big:
     
  8. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I went to Tennessee's web page of fishing regulations, and found the following: "Cast nets must be no more than 10 feet in radius with a mesh size no smaller than one quarter inch, and no larger than one inch on the square."
    Now, there are some locations where it's illegal to use a cast net on any size, but it sounds to me like the officer didn't know her job. Also, it seems to me that if the law should indeed specify a 2' radius, and Tennessee publishes that up to a 10' radius is allowed, that would constitute entrapment, which could easily get them sued, big time. Maybe even some jail time for whoever authorized it.
     
  9. Catwagon

    Catwagon New Member

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    BigPapa is the one with the cast net problem and he's in Pennsylvania. :)

    Steve
     
  10. crazy

    crazy New Member

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    So what would happen if you busted out a 12 foot seine net? Would that be to big? Man she would really hate me and my 8 foot radius net. You are only allowed 50 shad? That kind of seems like a low number I'm glad there is no limit on bait fish here. Mybe there is and I'm just breaking the law. Oh well time will only tell. I would say other things about her but it would not be nice.
     
  11. dmc888

    dmc888 New Member

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    I keep a fishing regulation book in my trunk just incase. If she is right just buy a 4ft diameter castnet and keep the box and reciept with you. That way if she doesn't know how to measure you have proof its 4ft. Sucks how they harass you like that.
     
  12. typer181

    typer181 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I put a small gathering of brothers together this past weekend on the White River, south of Indianapolis. My brother (blood) had a fish on the line so I ran to grab my gloves and camera. As a was running to my bag, I noticed a uniformed officer walking down the bank toward us. I waved a ran back down to where my brother and everyone else was to assist in the landing of the fish. It turned out to be a 4lb channel. Anyway, by the time the fish was in the net the CO was standing right there. He asked for licenses and we all had them but one of my friends that came down there for an hour didn't. He didn't even bring a pole. I unfortunately had let him borrow one of mine and he had it in a stand. About 5 minutes before the CO came up to us, my friend had gone over to take up the slack on his line, which constitutes fishing. He told my friend that he could take him to jail but instead would write him a fine, and that the fine ticket would give him the 'okay' to fish for the remainer of the day in case another CO came by. (They travel in flocks :D ). He asked my friend to walk back to his cruiser about 300 yards away so he could write the ticket. Once they got back to the cruiser, the CO had my friend spread em over the trunk, took out his hand cuffs, and told him he disserved to go to jail. After a few tense seconds, he put the cuffs away and told him the $110 fine would be punish enough. Needless to say, my friend which hadn't been fishing since he saw me a year ago, was made to feel like a criminal, which is something that he is far from being! He now has to lie to his wife, and borrow money from his grandmother because he can't afford the fine. I have attached two pictures, one of my brother and friend learning that the fishing trip was going to cost $110 because of our uninvited guest. And a second with my friend walking back to the CO's car and the evil, unlawful, anarchistic fishing pole on the right. God Bless America! More like, God Bless Americans!
     

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  13. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    fishing without a lisc is one thing. obeying the rules is a totally different. thing.

    thereshould be a state regulation in penn on the size of your net that you are allowed to use. for example. in illinois its is unlawful to use a shad net uver 8 foot in diamater. witch is a 4 foot radius with a mesh pattern no larger than 3/8's of an inch. the law also states that its unlawful to use a shad scoop (trawl) over 24" in daimater. check your regulations in the fishing books. it should be clearly stated. then carry a copy with ya and if ya get a ticket it will be dropped in court if your were obeying the law. the officer may not have a clue..

    also there should be regulations on seign size too. its all in the regulation book. in illinois they give the fishing guides out anywhere ya get a fishing lisc. check then. i dought a four foot diam net is to big. im betting the law says 8 ' diam and 4 ' darious. she is thinking that 8 ' diam is to big when your prob legal.
     
  14. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    pennsylvania regulations right fron the state law page.


    GAFF OR LANDING NET. A gaff or landing net is permitted to assist in landing fish caught using a lawful device. Nets of all types can be no larger (excluding the handle) than 4 feet square or 4 feet in diameter. It is unlawful to use any type of net or seine to catch or take gamefish.


    this is the law for nets used to land fish.

    1. Do I need a license to fish in Pennsylvania?
    Yes. A current Pennsylvania fishing license, signed in ink and displayed (attach to a hat or outer garment), is required of persons age 16 and over to fish or angle for any species of fish. A license is also needed to take fishbait or baitfish. Casting and/or retrieving whether by rod, reel and line, or by handline, for oneself or another person, requires a current license unless specifically exempted by law.
    Licenses are not needed on Fish for Free days, see Question 9 for more about fish for free days, all other fishing regulations still apply on fish for free days....go to Question 9.

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    sorry. thats the first rule.

    Douglas J. Austen, Ph.D

    Executive Director





    Annex A
    Regulation No. 48A-176
    Title 58. Recreation
    Part II. Fish and Boat Commission
    Subpart B. Fishing

    CHAPTER 63. GENERAL FISHING REGULATIONS

    §63.48. Permit for the use of cast nets or throw nets.

    (a) The Executive Director or a designee may issue permits for the use of cast nets or throw nets for the taking of gizzard shad 8 inches or less in length and alewife only in waters to be determined by the Executive Director.

    (b) In addition to other permit conditions that the Executive Director may require, the cast nets or throw nets shall be no greater than 10 feet in radius (20 feet in diameter) with a mesh size of at least 3/8 inch.

    (c) Notwithstanding the provisions of §61.1 (relating to Commonwealth inland waters), holders of permits for the use of cast nets or throw nets may take, catch, kill or possess a daily creel limit of 100 gizzard shad and alewife (combined species).

    (d) A person may apply for a permit for the use of cast nets or throw nets by completing the form prescribed by the Commission. The applicant shall submit the completed form to the Commission along with the fee specified in section 2902 of the code (relating to net permits).

    (e) It is unlawful to use cast nets or throw nets for the taking of gizzard shad and alewife or to take, catch, kill or possess more than the daily creel limit of gizzard shad and alewife as set forth in §61.1 without the required permit. A permit for the use of cast nets or throw nets shall be carried so that it can be presented to an officer authorized to enforce the code.


    there is the regulations for penn. b states that a net not be greater than 10' in radius and 20 ' in diameter. she is wrong. she has it most likly confused with landing nets. your legal.
     
  15. cook

    cook New Member

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    The way I read it,he must have a special permit for the large cast net to be legal.


    The first reg says landing nets,then further on,any type of net :confused: :confused:
     
  16. dudlbugr

    dudlbugr New Member

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    The way I read it, he must have a permit for the use of the cast net, which means that the CO, luckily, does not know the law. My guess is, when she figures it out, she's going to be looking for you! Better apply for the permit and cease use of it until you have the permit. Also, if she really is checking your license so often, call the DNR and file a complaint of harassment. There was a warden down here that was doing that for a while, Someone complained to the state office, and he stopped doing it so much.
    Above all else, try to remember that game wardens have a very tough job, often involving long hours, little or no backup, and little pay.
    Oh yeah, once you have the permit, it might be a good idea to copy the above listing of the law and have it on your person for the next time, so that she can be made more aware of the situation.
     
  17. crazy

    crazy New Member

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    Man thats complicated.
     
  18. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    the cast net thing isn't clear. i looked over several pages of stuff and searches to find anything on cast nets in penn. there are page after page of trout crap. seems like thats about all thier worried about.

    now cook. on the landing net. this is what it means. you can only use a four foot net to land a fish like if it was caught on a rod and reel.

    the next part simply means you can not use a seign or net to catch say a largemouth. you can land them with one not catch them with it. does that help??

    sorry. i didn't see the permit thing. im sure theres something in the laws on them. that just must not be what i thought i found.
     
  19. bigpapa15206

    bigpapa15206 New Member

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    this is too confusing im gonna call the state.
     
  20. cook

    cook New Member

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    I'm just going to stay out of Penn. :rolleyes: