113 lb blue caught in cali last month

Discussion in 'General Conversation' started by willcat, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. willcat

    willcat New Member

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  2. kmcalester

    kmcalester New Member

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    WTF????????????????????????????????????:crazy:
     

  3. Boomer

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    That is truely pitiful. 113.4 lbs, and now it is gone.
     
  4. germanmudfish

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    AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
     
  5. jolie

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    OK guys I get a question thats been burning in me since I started CPR several years back.

    How does the Average catfish shore fishermen Exactly claim the State record without killing the fish. The fish has to go onto certified scales; that means for a midnight fish it will have to sit somewhere for 6 hours (at least)on a stringer. certainly a flopping catfish is dead (or harmed beyond a reasonable hope to completely resusitate it) 6hours later flopping on the bank, ISn't it??.

    and IMHO for a fish to grow THAT big, it would have to be an OLD fish. some might argue that an enormous blue that is the biggest, baddest fish in the river, has also done most of his spawning, all his growing and will likely die soon anyway. In fact Most of the state records that I hear about on the internet did die anyway. Certainly the world record 123#er did (where was that? Iowa??). Without a really big livewell, and alot of gentle handling- wouldn't it just be alot more vulnerable than other catfish given its advanced age??

    I am cool with releasing fish to trophy dimensions; in fact I am 100% sure I would release a trophy catfish ... but once we get to state records I am less sure... you guys would all sacrifice the accomplishment, the fanfair, the advancement to catfishing knowledge. If everyone felt this way the state and international records would be ALL but meaningless.

    The other thought is that a state / international record is by Definition a very uncommon, unusual fish and keeping fish that you think is such a record is Keeping just a single fish in your lifetime (if you're lucky). Keeping Record fish is NOT going to put a major pressure on trophy fisheries.

    Please don't flame me, but I think the rules regarding state records make it hard to CPR a state or international record...
    yet to a man, everyone on this thread thinks it is really terrible that the guy kept the fish to eat.

    please explain
     
  6. BigOBear

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    from a sister article: http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/outdoors/20080730-9999-1s30outdoors.html
     
  7. willcat

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    That my friend is a very good post on the much heated discussion of CPR, people would go round & round for days on this subject, but I wish we could get some intelligent answers on this as most will say they don't care if it's a state( I wonder if it was a world record if they would feel the same way)record they will let it go!!! But just how would you know if it was almost at the end of it's days or even if it still spawned?????? The answer is you wouldn't, unless a biologist examined it(like splash was)and then it would just die anyway, sooner not later!!! That's why we have DNR specialists who do their surveys and set the limits on size and amounts that are legal to take.....and alot of people say to each their own--however I think most of the debate comes where people keep most of their big fish(not necessarily trophy size)but everything they catch to where they won't grow bigger & be trophy size for the guys who only go after trophies!!!!this is my opinion on this matter.
     
  8. kat in the hat

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    Ask Radish what it's like to let a potential world record swim away without being weighed properly, let alone being certified. How many others have done the same thing, and never looked back? I don't know if I could do that either...:confused2:

    At least the guy is gonna eat the thing, and not let it rot.
     
  9. poisonpits

    poisonpits Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    guys i think ive said this before but here it is again if i did.most of you know im a cpr guy of fish ove 10 or 15 lbs.but if i catch a fish that i think is a state or world record ill do ever thing im my power to keep it alive but one way or another he or she has a date with a certified scale witnessed by a member of the arkansas game and fish.
     
  10. Wvawitrado

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    I must agree well put Do all you can to keep that sucker alive but if you really think you have a record on your hands do you think your just going to let it swim off unrecorded? 1 in a few men would cause there is no way to put a statistic on that it would rely completely on the type of man and desire he had to have a fishing record....Like some threads are its just a REVOLVING DOOR!!!!!!!!!!! I still think its bull that he caught it on his homemade asian bait or whatever they called it...And to think he continued to fish he could have possibly preserved it for studying and research.....Also HE KNOWS THAT CAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN GOOD EATING I DONT CARE WHAT HE SAYS TO JUSTIFY WHAT HE DID!!!!! Not that its wrong just I CHOOSE TO DISAGREE AND THATS ALL NO FIGHTING!!!!!
     
  11. Phil Washburn

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    and you know that, jordan, because you have eaten how many 100lb+ cats:wink::smile2::smile2:
     
  12. jolie

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    Well I think this is very noble, very good of radish. Certainly, he shows real zeal in his CPR belief. Part of me applauds this; after all I don't fish for bragging or publicity either.

    but I think I agree with poisonpits. I don't think I could release the record fish. And it isn't because I want to brag. Such a fish is a 'Gift of God.' if no one kept their record fish, records would be all but useless. Records inspire us. Nature can spare her "record fish" which by definition are very,very rare. And IF I did harvest the record fish; once it was properly certified- I do think I would try to eat it; because I don't harvest fish to let them rot And Lastly I would look into mounting it....
    I don't know perhaps I will feel differently should the time come.

    thanks for being polite.

    My opinion that releasing or keeping fish is a personal decision has been said by other people. I guess what caught my ear about this thread was that you seemed to imply he had made a really awful decision to keep and eat his state record fish...

    well, I might do the same. and I do CPR bigger catfish (I haven't actually caught the 10# cat; that people keep saying should go back).

    My point is that the fact that this makes it a difficult decision whether to keep or not; it isn't a "What a dumb moron; Anyone with brains would have put him back"... kind of decision.

    well, this is my opinion.
     
  13. Wvawitrado

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    LOL HAHAHAHAHA well I guess your right:wink:
    Jolie I completely agree with you on that its just a bummer when its not you catching the hog lol CAUSE WE WOULD BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE!!!!! LOL
     
  14. GaryF

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    Best bet is to stringer it until you come up with a plan for transport and certification. You will need help, maybe someone to bring a stock tank or child's swimming pool in the back of their truck. A place I fish a lot is a 1 mile walk to the road, I'd have to just release anything I caught there.

    Prospects really aren't much better for a boat fisherman, very few have the facilities to keep a 100+lb fish. The best bet in either case is to have a plan ready ahead of time.