Hello! My name is Denis, I am from the city of Krasnodar from Russia. Our city is located on the Kuban River. In the late 1960s and early 70s, an American canal catfish was brought to reservoirs near the city of Krasnodar, it was planned to breed it in view of its gastronomic qualities, as I did not know what happened next, but the catfish was in the Kuban River and naturally bred in it. Several times I caught him on an earthworm, but this is more an exception than practice. A river with a rather strong current, catfish that I came across were caught, for the first time in the place of the flood of the river with almost no flow and in the second in a small pit near the shore with the reverse flow. I liked this fish, I want to try to catch exclusively this species. In our city, catching a channel catfish is not popular, since no one knows exactly how, what and most importantly where to look for it, there is one guy who catches a channel catfish has its own YouTube channel, but he categorically refuses to talk about the bait, only says that Soap brews and nothing more ... Therefore, I decided to ask you for advice, since you have greatly succeeded in catching channel catfish.
I read many topics about bait, but could not systematize the data. Please tell me, with what bait to start a new experience and in what places is more likely to catch?
P \ S I can describe the places of the alleged fishing and give the coordinates on google map.
Hello Denis and welcome to the USCA (US Catfiahing Association).
Here we have found that channel catfish like a variety of baits and will eat almost anything. Here are a few that are used here a lot.
Chicken liver. (either fresh or spoiled) This is hard to keep on a hook so fishermen often use cut up patches of ladies nylon hose to wrap it in and the hook barb goes thru the cloth material to help keep it on.
In a tie for first choice would but what we call cut bait. That is other fish cut up into small pieces and put on the hook. The fish skin is important because it helps keep the bait on the hook.
Night Crawlers (Large worms) will work well. A bunch of small ones work fine also.
Some folks use chunks of chicken as bait. About half the size of your thumb.
Pieces of hotdog work and putting shrimp on a hook works.
I have hear of people using chunks of bar soap cut into cubes but I have not tried that.
Then there are punch baits, dip baits and cheese baits and stink baits. You can probably look those up on your computer.
Be careful around the small spikes. One on the dorsal fin and one on each side fin. They can be very painful and cause an infection if you get stuck by one. But they will heal after a while.
Hello Tom, hello Bob! Thanks for the warm welcome and good advice! The next time I go to the river, I will try to use bait from chopped fish and a heavy load so that the current does not blow the bait.
I intended to use fish bait, but I want to experiment with other types of bait, such as cheese with the addition of various ingredients and possibly soap. The fact is that in our region, the Krasnodar Territory, it is forbidden to catch certain fish species that can peck on fish bait, such as Sander and Stizostedion volgensis. Therefore, I will try bait that will help to avoid the capture of these species of predators.
One more trick, Denis. You can add a feeder to you line with ground fish mixed with bread or corn to attract cats. It worked for me when fishing was slow.
Bob, this is a great idea with complementary foods, I want to try such a scheme as in the picture, but not from the boat, but from a slightly prominent cape, I think the effect will be similar. This is called fishing for a ring.
Welcome Dennis all the way from Arkansas:smile1: channel cats like fish guys..I don't know what kind of bait fish you guys can catch and use ..we use shad guts here they love them and bite quickly... keep us posted on your fishing adventures:cool1:
Hello David. You are right, both species relate to zander, the differences of the second are smaller, the absence of fangs and some minor differences. The ban does not apply throughout the territory of Russia, but only in certain administrative territories. The ban on fishing for these species is due to the low level of the population, due to illegal fishing, such as braided networks and electrical devices operating on the principle of electric discharge, this is not legal and is considered poaching. But unfortunately there are people who neglect the rules of fishing. In view of this, it was decided to limit the fishing of these species in key reservoirs of the Krasnodar Territory. This list includes the Kuban River, in which canal catfish live.
Denis,
I used DIY carp spring feeders with free line moving inside them. They served as slip sinkers for Carolina rig and as feeders. They provide very good casting from the bank.
Hello Bob! Could you sketch or take a picture of your mounting method? Do you use swivels during installation, as well as how many hooks and how long the leash is?
Denis I would guess from the species of fish in that river you could use carp, roach, silver bream as cut bait or guts?? Don't know your laws about what bait is legal?
Denis I would guess from the species of fish in that river you could use carp, roach, silver bream as cut bait or guts?? Don't know your laws about what bait is legal?
Hello Keith! All species listed by you are allowed to catch, with the exception of the spawning period. I carefully monitor all legislative changes in the field of regulation of recreational fishing.
Hi Denis,
I made a couple of simple feeders like in Picture 1. However, I fish in the lake without current. You need heavier and flat design for the strong current. Picture 2 is Carolina rig with 2 hooks, which I used. Hope it will help.
P.S. Use T-knot and different leader length (6-12") to minimize tangling.
Hello Bob! Now I understand the design, it is really very similar to those used in the feeder fishing of cyprinids. In my case, I need to add another sliding load, in addition to the load in the feeder itself. Thanks for the advice!
Remember Denis may not have ever seen some of the items you mention so a picture truly is worth a thousand words. And he is translating your words. Every word, especially and slang will just be confusing to him.
Drawings with measurements would be good also. Denis can convert US measurements to his system
Denis, you knowledge of the English language is very good.
Hello Tom! It is nice to get a good grade, knowledge of English. Reading texts-posts in English, almost does not cause me any difficulty, but when writing answers, I resort to the help of a Google translator to avoid grammatical errors. You are right, it’s difficult for me to build a sense chain, when slang is used. I would be grateful if it would not be difficult for you to write in simple words.
ok the top picture is a shad. The bottom picture is a shad cut up to catfish with .....middle section is called the gut pocket that is what I was referring to but we also use the head it is good bait to I do not use the end of the shad or the tail. You can use this method with any bait fish that you use over there
Hello Sam! Now I understand. I was misled by the mention of the intestines, the fact is that I have repeatedly heard from fishermen catching European catfish or as it is also called, simple catfish that I use the intestines and stomach of cattle, sheep, cows, since it has a sharp smelly smell. Thank you for the clarification!
Hello dear fishermen! Tomorrow I want to try to go fishing with my dad for evening fishing, to this place, 45.032985, 38.853335. In your opinion, in such a small canal adjacent to the river, with a practically absent current and a depth of not more than 6 feet, canal catfish can live? Never before have I tried to catch in this place a canal catfish, mainly cyprinids and a predator.
Denis, that appears to be a good location to try. Of course a person can only try. It does not always work. But fishing is fun even if we don't always catch what we are after. That might also be a good place to try when the river is high and flowing fast. Catfish will be looking for a place out of the fast current during those times. They may go into that smaller canal to avoid the fast water.
Good luck, fishing with your father can be a special time.
Hello everybody! Two days in a row we went out for evening fishing, at the indicated coordinates, and both evenings the result was zero ... From the lures to the channel catfish, I used chicken liver wrapped in elastic mesh and laundry soap (I saw muddyrivercatfishing in the videos, he calls it IVORY SOAP). The liver remained untouched, the soap too. But, on the first day there was a thunderstorm, maybe this could somehow affect? On the second day there was a fairly strong buzz, because there is a pumping station nearby, which pumps water from the river into an irrigation canal to irrigate the fields. Or am I doing something wrong)). In any case, I do not give up and continue to try to catch the channel catfish, but apparently I will find another place for fishing. On the second day, another fish was also extremely reluctant to catch, dad caught several fish smaller than his palm. They decided to let them go and not use them as live bait, it was already dark, and the mosquitoes had an excellent appetite that day.
Hi Denis,
I would try to fish with nightcrawlers and pieces of fish. Do not use liver or soap if you do not have high concentration of cats in your area. Also, try to find a quiet place. One time, I got nothing near the creek bank where the mover worked and caught a plenty of fish on another creek side. Also try Kentucky rig with two hooks and a bobber. If you do not have strong current in your place, put one hook on the bottom and suspend another one above, adjusting a bobber position on the main line. It will increase your chances for catching. Also try to fish on mornings. It is more quiet and productive time. Good luck. Post your results.
Hello Bob! I’ll try your option with a float, now it’s quite arid, so it’s quite difficult to dig up nightcrawlers, I’ll ask you at the fishing store. And of course I’ll try another place.
Night crawlers will catch fish. That has been proven many times. But the liver will also. Channels are known to eat about anything so I think I would try a different location. Maybe the main river itself. Or jut off the river in the canal if you can get to it.
As far as the bar soap, I have heard about it being used before but have never tried it. Ivory Soap is a bar soap that floats.
Night crawlers will catch fish. That has been proven many times. But the liver will also. Channels are known to eat about anything so I think I would try a different location. Maybe the main river itself. Or jut off the river in the canal if you can get to it.
As far as the bar soap, I have heard about it being used before but have never tried it. Ivory Soap is a bar soap that floats.
Hello Tom! I will not bother with soap, for starters, worms and pieces of fish will be used, when I understand that the channel catfish is definitely in this place, I will continue to experiment with bait.
The pumping station or close to it is where I would fish for your catfish! Water being released at the pumping station would stir up the bottom or create a commotion and should draw the catfish to that area. I always have good success fishing the edges of turbulent water around dams, pumping stations, grain mills, etc.
Hello George! You mean the side of the pumping station where the water is released, right? You are right, in addition to turbidity during the release of water, oxygen is also being saturated, and according to the logic of things, this should be attractive to fish.
Hello Bill! I could not find this author, Google did not show the result, I found only the author Doug Stange and, as well as the site www.in-fisherman.com, I am currently studying it.
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