got to thinking about this

[Philippe]

Sounds like the tin foil hat crowd has gotten to him! Like the above poster, i have 7.62 ammo that was made in the early 60's and it is still in its spam cans, i shot some of it about 5 years ago and it was some great ammo! I have shot reloads my father loaded up 15 years ago and they worked just fine.

[canebreaker]

We keep bringing up how old some of this ammo is that we're shooting. Someone's wild talk about what the gov wants to do to curve the use of hand guns is what the depleting ammo is about. I've heard about it, plus the ammo that you have to sign for, because each case and bullet will have your number on it. Just some wild talk for now. Would a dealer buy back what ammo you have that won't shoot? At the price you bought it for? Would a mfg. buy back the ammo too? I could see this doubling the cost of ammo. I don't think we will see this.

[hct236]

I heard the same thing a few months ago when I picked up a box of shells, the guy that rang me up said that he heard from a guy that knows a guy, that handgun ammo will degrade in 90 days. But I would think that if that were true, ammo makers would print the expiration date clearly on the box. Imagine the law suits they would have if some people didn't know they had expired ammo and they were injured or killed by an attacker in their home because their ammo didn't go off. I suppose it's possible to add chemical elements that will render powder or primers useless after a certain time but, I think if it were even in the very beginning of the process to make it happen, we would have already heard a lot of stink about it from gun enthusiasts, manufacturers, and gun rights groups. Another thing I heard was that the government wants manufactures to design firearms so that they will micro-stamp the guns serial number on spent cartridges.

[WalkAlot]

No one has said it yet but some some of the early NT (non-toxic) lead free primers did not have a very long shelf life. Actually, they even had some problems getting them to work very reliable when they were new. Apparently it was very suceptible to absorbing moisture?

I think even winchester and CCI have a use by 5 years date on their non-toxic training ammo. Their duty ammo still uses good old reliable lead styphnate.

A lot of people think that primers are junk if they ever get wet, and that isn't true either. They are packed wet for safety even.

Brett

[Kip Brandel]

No one has said it yet but some some of the early NT (non-toxic) lead free primers did not have a very long shelf life. Actually, they even had some problems getting them to work very reliable when they were new. Apparently it was very suceptible to absorbing moisture.

Some NT rounds are using standard small pistol primers to reduce the amount of lead, it may be called "clean" but does not say lead free. PMC and Magtech make lead free primers using diazodinitrophenol and sell them in large and small primer sizes and you can buy them nut they do have a 25 year shelf life.

[Blacky]

I was BS'n a friend today and we allways chit chat on politics , well long story short, he starts sayin stuff about gun control, and after a while he pulls a 22LR cartridge from his pocket and says, see this, its got a 90 day shelf life so we cant stockpile ammo, thats the Governments first step in making our legal guns useless. Well I have been websearching ever since to no avail. But I really dont buy it ,I think he's full of it .

I got 7.672x39 made in the 60's in Yugoslavia and will fire.

My Arisaska rounds made in the 1940's in Japan shoots fine.

[223reload]

I got 7.672x39 made in the 60's in Yugoslavia and will fire.

My Arisaska rounds made in the 1940's in Japan shoots fine.

No doubt it will , but try reading my post before you jump in and insert both feet in your mouth , or possibly you just didnt understand/comprehend it fully.

[canebreaker]

I agree with you Richard.
I guess we all could buy a few boxes of new ammo or powder for reloading. If said to us at time of purchase about the shelf life. Ask where is the code date on the package. Put them back and shoot a few when a year old. Then again at 18 months, then at 2 years. Try to buy enough for up to 5 years. Do our own study on this ammo thing.
Yesterday I picked up 2 30 cal. cans of 38 spl. ammo that was sent to england before ww2. The guy said it was from his dad. He was afraid to shoot it, because of its age. I have no fear of it working right. I'll take some to the range today. Like you said, it's the new stuff.

[canebreaker]

I'm ready to start. I ordered a case of ammo, 20 boxes. Blazer 115gr. fmj brass from natchezss. I'll date each box, shoot 1 every 6 months. See how they do. That will carry this test to April, 2022.

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[canebreaker]

That old 38 spl ammo shot fine as I thought it would. But I scraped over half the brass, because of cracks. Not little cracks at the neck, I mean full length case cracks. I had to push the pin against the bench to eject the cases every time. I'm glad I choice to shoot in the 357 instead of the 38. These things had some kick. I only shot about a half of a can. That's all my hand could handle.
I have my 9m ammo in today. I dated every box starting with first box sept 2012. second box dec. 2012. then 1 box per month after that. Look for my reports on the ammo later. This is Blazer 115 gr. fmj brass.

I heard of some old cowboy action 357 ammo from the 70's tonight. Checking on it in the morning.