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			<title>Traditional or Compound?  In my opinion it all depends on where you hunt</title>
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A great hunter once told me, "Do what works for you". 

Back to your question. The only semi successful traditional bow hunters I know hunt situations where the topography of the stand and lay out of the land, (i.e. funnels to food plots) enables the hunter to use a re-curve or long bow. Speaking for myself, I hunt public land. The deer are under lots of pressure and are well trained to “seek the human”. I must use every available advantage I can to consistently harvest a deer. With that being said, if you are want to harvest a buck deer with large antlers. You will have to walk farther, work harder, and learn the land you are hunting like no one else. The harder you work to find the perfect set up to hunt the more apt you are to be able to hunt with a traditional bow. I am old (50) and can’t walk as far as I used to, my knees are going out. 

So I must use a compound bow to increase my odds of being consistently successful in taking a deer. Now I only walk about two miles back into the swamp. 

I still shoot my traditional bow once in a while. Once you “get in the groove” they are amazingly accurate, however, not consistent. The consistency is due to the persons muscle getting tired and mental concentration slipping after several shots. A compound bow with a release is far more consistent. I have taken 25 deer with my compound and zero with my re-curve. Most of my shots have been leaning back or squatting down so as to not hit a limb. My re-curve is so long, I simply could not make those same shots. 
Back to my original point. I know a young man that told me he took a nice buck every year with his re-curve. In the evening the bucks come to eat the feed his grandfather puts out for the cattle. Oookkkaaayy, some would call that hunting. Seriously, I also call it hunting, however, my point being, he knew exactly where the buck was going to be at the exact time it was going to be there. To get to his stand he walked 10 yards from his 4 wheeler and sat in a comfortable shooting platform. I don’t have those luxuries, so I have to tough it out on public land. The deer are highly sought after and I need every advantage I can get. 
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				<div class="message"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">A great hunter once told me, &quot;Do what works for you&quot;. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Back to your question. The only semi successful traditional bow hunters I know hunt situations where the topography of the stand and lay out of the land, (i.e. funnels to food plots) enables the hunter to use a re-curve or long bow. Speaking for myself, I hunt public land. The deer are under lots of pressure and are well trained to “seek the human”. I must use every available advantage I can to consistently harvest a deer. With that being said, if you are want to harvest a buck deer with large antlers. You will have to walk farther, work harder, and learn the land you are hunting like no one else. The harder you work to find the perfect set up to hunt the more apt you are to be able to hunt with a traditional bow. I am old (50) and can’t walk as far as I used to, my knees are going out. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">So I must use a compound bow to increase my odds of being consistently successful in taking a deer. Now I only walk about two miles back into the swamp. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I still shoot my traditional bow once in a while. Once you “get in the groove” they are amazingly accurate, however, not consistent. The consistency is due to the persons muscle getting tired and mental concentration slipping after several shots. A compound bow with a release is far more consistent. I have taken 25 deer with my compound and zero with my re-curve. Most of my shots have been leaning back or squatting down so as to not hit a limb. My re-curve is so long, I simply could not make those same shots. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Back to my original point. I know a young man that told me he took a nice buck every year with his re-curve. In the evening the bucks come to eat the feed his grandfather puts out for the cattle. Oookkkaaayy, some would call that hunting. Seriously, I also call it hunting, however, my point being, he knew exactly where the buck was going to be at the exact time it was going to be there. To get to his stand he walked 10 yards from his 4 wheeler and sat in a comfortable shooting platform. I don’t have those luxuries, so I have to tough it out on public land. The deer are highly sought after and I need every advantage I can get. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">In conclusion it simply depends on your personal situation as to which bow you choose. </span></div>
			
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			<title>Wild hog hunting should replace whitetail deer hunting, sound crazy?  Read on........</title>
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I want to make some, “in general”, statements about white tail deer hunting -vs. - wild hog hunting. I would enjoy any and all feedback from anyone with an opinion about this subject. If you have ever hunted wild hogs or lived around where they live feel free to comment. I find the need to step up and be the first to state that wild hog hunting should be an honored sport equal to or elevated above deer hunting. 

* Wild hogs, require far less time commitment than deer hunting. Who has the time to deer hunt? Where do you deer hunt?
* Wild hogs are better table fare than white tail deer. You can’t eat deer antlers and very few of us have a house big enough to display a deer mount. Hogs provide an inexpensive source of protein compared to white tail deer, which are very expensive. The expense of deer mounts! Need I say more?
* Wild hogs don’t have strict, complicated, ever changing rules and regulations. I don’t know about you all, I have a difficult time keeping up with the rules and rule changes associated with white tail deer hunting.
* Wild hogs can make a living, (find food, shelter etc.) where white tail deer cannot.
* Wild hogs numbers recover quickly.
* Wild hogs are legal to trap, hunt with dogs, any kind of lead flinger including air gun, sling shot, knife, rifle night light or bare hands.
* Wild hogs provide multiple adrenaline rushes in the same day.
* Wild hogs are safer to hunt they have poor eyesight and provide the hunter with a little more edge. You don’t have to climb up dangerous trees in the dark to avoid sight detection. Far more tree stand deer hunters are injured or killed every year than hog hunters.
* Wild hogs are fun to watch and stalk.
* Wild hogs do some crop depredation, so do white tail deer. The animals root around and break up the sod, so do four wheelers, horses, motorcycles, cattle and downpours. I have lived around them for years and have yet to see hogs do more damage to crops than deer. I have seen young soybean and peanut fields decimated by small deer herds.
* Wild hogs are trainable and tend to learn quicker than white tail deer. The older hogs become very stealthy; therefore large tusks are more difficult to come by than large antlers.
* Wild hogs are difficult to pattern, unlike white tail deer.
* Wild hogs are easily baited; they eat carrion, rotten anything and snakes. Deer are browsers and only eat the young soft plants, buds, etc.

In conclusion: Liken to white tail deer, wild hogs should receive the same respect in the hunting community. The camaraderie among the hunters is unsurpassed in hog hunting, you can make noise, move and generally not freeze to death liken deer hunting. Wild hog hunting does not Attachment 113133 (http://www.catfish1.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113133)tie up all of your time like deer hunting. You don’t have to get out of bed at O-dark-thirty 
These men are business owners, Attachment 113132 (http://www.catfish1.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113132)doctors or in medical school. They simply don't have the time to deer hunt. 

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<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">I want to make some, “in general”, statements about white tail deer hunting -vs. - wild hog hunting. I would enjoy any and all feedback from anyone with an opinion about this subject. If you have ever hunted wild hogs or lived around where they live feel free to comment. I find the need to step up and be the first to state that wild hog hunting should be an honored sport equal to or elevated above deer hunting. </span><br />
<ul><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs, require far less time commitment than deer hunting. Who has the time to deer hunt? Where do you deer hunt? </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are better table fare than white tail deer. You can’t eat deer antlers and very few of us have a house big enough to display a deer mount. Hogs provide an inexpensive source of protein compared to white tail deer, which are very expensive. The expense of deer mounts! Need I say more?</span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs don’t have strict, complicated, ever changing rules and regulations. I don’t know about you all, I have a difficult time keeping up with the rules and rule changes associated with white tail deer hunting. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs can make a living, (find food, shelter etc.) where white tail deer cannot. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs numbers recover quickly. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are legal to trap, hunt with dogs, any kind of lead flinger including air gun, sling shot, knife, rifle night light or bare hands. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs provide multiple adrenaline rushes in the same day. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are safer to hunt they have poor eyesight and provide the hunter with a little more edge. You don’t have to climb up dangerous trees in the dark to avoid sight detection. Far more tree stand deer hunters are injured or killed every year than hog hunters. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are fun to watch and stalk. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs do some crop depredation, so do white tail deer. The animals root around and break up the sod, so do four wheelers, horses, motorcycles, cattle and downpours. I have lived around them for years and have yet to see hogs do more damage to crops than deer. I have seen young soybean and peanut fields decimated by small deer herds. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are trainable and tend to learn quicker than white tail deer. The older hogs become very stealthy; therefore large tusks are more difficult to come by than large antlers. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are difficult to pattern, unlike white tail deer. </span></li><li style=""><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Wild hogs are easily baited; they eat carrion, rotten anything and snakes. Deer are browsers and only eat the young soft plants, buds, etc. </span></li></ul><span style="font-family: Tahoma">In conclusion: Liken to white tail deer, wild hogs should receive the same respect in the hunting community. The camaraderie among the hunters is unsurpassed in hog hunting, you can make noise, move and generally not freeze to death liken deer hunting. Wild hog hunting does not <a href="http://www.catfish1.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113133"  title="Name:  
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">These men are business owners, <a href="http://www.catfish1.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113132"  title="Name:  
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			<title>Not real crazy about snag lines, but, they are legal, only call them trot lines.</title>
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Snag lines are legal in Oklahoma, however, as someone else stated. (Must check local water rules). 
 
Brother have you ever fished with snag lines? Snag lines are so very difficult to put out correctly and slay the hell out of catfish. I only ask that you don't leave your snag line in the water. In the spring the flatheads, blues and channel cats begin the migration for spawning. 
 
In the Spring, catfish are looking for mates and are very vulnerable to snag lines. I helped the ODWC pull up a snag line in Lake Murrary that was 2.5 miles long with thousands of true turn stainless steel hooks. We pulled up both dead and live flathead catfish. 
 
I pulled one up at Lake Thunderbird that was nearly as long with a thousand hooks. You know these guys are selling the fish or just killing them. They can't eat that many fish. Sadly, when the spring "catfish run" is over they leave their unmarked killer lines in the water. They are simply too difficult to put out and take in every weekend. If they get caught with illegal lines they are in big trouble. (I hope) 
 
If you want to make a legal snag line, the 6/0 true turn stainless steel hooks are hanging down like a trot line only they are 24 inches apart and point in opposite directions. There are no regulations for snag lines in Oklahoma, just follow the rules for trot lines. 
 
*From ODWC*
*These methods are legal for taking both game and nongame fish throughout the year, statewide, unless restricted under "Special Area Regulations" *
TROTLINE / THROWLINE: Trotlines/throwlines are restricted to no more than three (3) lines and 100 hooks per person. A legal trotline/throwline has: 
• no glass or metallic floating device on the line; 
• no metallic posts in water for attachment; 
• lines made of nonmetallic material only; 
*• hooks at least 24 inches apart;* 
• owner’s name and address attached to each line; 
• been attended at least once every 24 hours;
• not been set within three (3) ft. of surface of water at any point beyond six (6) ft. from either point of attachment, except at Great Salt Plains and Ft. Supply reservoirs where water is less than three (3) ft. deep.
The main line is 12 inches off the bottom, supported by small floats. The hooks are only one inch off the bottom. The main line is a nylon rope stretched as tight as a piano wire. 
 
Legal snag lines don't catch much unless you drape them across a deep creek channel under a bridge where catfish must funnel through. Then they are deadly to anything that swims by, mostly flathead catfish. 
 
I suggest jug or trot line fishing, (not snag line fishing). They know the lines kill more catfish than they harvest, but, they are legal so they continue to use them. The only problem is that they are left in the water year round! 
 
Jug lines and trot lines are excellent forms of what I call "hard work" fishing. We all know catching the bait is the most difficult part. Sitting around drinking beer talking about who has the best trot line or jug line set up is awesome fun.
 
Good Luck with your trot - snag lines brother, but, please make them legal and take them in when you are finished. The highway bridge going across Keystone would be my choice for a snag line, however, there are already several there killing all fish swimming by.
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Brother have you ever fished with snag lines? Snag lines are so very difficult to put out correctly and slay the hell out of catfish. I only ask that you don't leave your snag line in the water. In the spring the flatheads, blues and channel cats begin the migration for spawning. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">In the Spring, catfish are looking for mates and are very vulnerable to snag lines. I helped the ODWC pull up a snag line in Lake Murrary that was 2.5 miles long with thousands of true turn stainless steel hooks. We pulled up both dead and live flathead catfish. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I pulled one up at Lake Thunderbird that was nearly as long with a thousand hooks. You know these guys are selling the fish or just killing them. They can't eat that many fish. Sadly, when the spring &quot;catfish run&quot; is over they leave their unmarked killer lines in the water. They are simply too difficult to put out and take in every weekend. If they get caught with illegal lines they are in big trouble. (I hope) </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">If y</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">ou want to make a legal snag line, the 6/0 true turn stainless steel hooks are hanging down like a trot line only they are 24 inches apart and point in opposite directions. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">There are no regulations for snag lines in Oklahoma, just follow the rules for trot lines. </span><br />
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<b><i><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">From ODWC</span></font></i></b><br />
<b><i><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">These methods are legal for taking both game and nongame fish throughout the year, statewide, <font color="#ed1846">unless restricted under &quot;Special Area Regulations&quot; </font></span></font></i></b><br />
<font color="#008fd4"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">TROTLINE / THROWLINE:</span></font><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"> Trotlines/throwlines are restricted to no more than three (3) lines and 100 hooks per person. A legal trotline/throwline has: </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• no glass or metallic floating device on the line; </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• no metallic posts in water for attachment; </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• lines made of nonmetallic material only; </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><font color="black"><b><i>• hooks at least 24 inches apart;</i></b></font> </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• owner’s name and address attached to each line; </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• been attended at least once every 24 hours;</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman">• not been set within three (3) ft. of surface of water at any point beyond six (6) ft. from either point of attachment, except at Great Salt Plains and Ft. Supply reservoirs where water is less than three (3) ft. deep.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">The main line is 12 inches off the bottom, supported by small floats. The hooks are only one inch off the bottom. The main line is a nylon rope stretched as tight as a piano wire. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Legal snag lines don't catch much unless you drape them across a deep creek channel under a bridge where catfish must funnel through. Then they are deadly to anything that swims by, mostly flathead catfish. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I suggest jug or trot line fishing, (not snag line fishing). They know the lines kill more catfish than they harvest, but, they are legal so they continue to use them. The only problem is that they are left in the water year round! </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Jug lines and trot lines are excellent forms of what I call &quot;hard work&quot; fishing. We all know catching the bait is the most difficult part. Sitting around drinking beer talking about who has the best trot line or jug line set up is awesome fun.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Good Luck with your trot - snag lines brother, but, please make them legal and take them in when you are finished. The highway bridge going across Keystone would be my choice for a snag line, however, there are already several there killing all fish swimming by. </span></div>
			
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			<title>Rounding up a Catfish Posse to go spoonbill snagging! $50/person</title>
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Gentlemen, thanks so much for your comments. 

No worries about rounding up six of your friends or family. I think the USCA site is perfect for, “getting the word out” to any and all potential fishermen who would like to try something different. If all six men or women signed up I would be delighted, however, I am happy to just get to go and take someone who enjoys fishing and something different. Spoonbill snagging is a real treat for any fishermen. 
 
I have six heavy poles that will do the trick. Nothing fancy, just adequate. If you have a heavy pole, (sometimes called boat poles, because they are short and stout), feel free to bring it with you. All poles are equipped with 45 pound test braded line; one barbless hand sharpened treble hook and 6 ounce weight. I have lots of extra weights and hooks. I will have plenty of wild boar summer sausage to go around, (jalapeño and cheese spiced) and bottled water. However you are welcome to bring snacks. Please bring rain gear and an extra jacket just in case the weather gets nasty. 
 
This weekend is closing in quick. I think I have one fishermen coming from OKC and one from Dallas. These guys are on call and may not make it, but that will not stop me from going. I have insurance waivers for you to sign when you arrive or you can go to my website www.sunandmoonfishing.com (http://www.sunandmoonfishing.com/) look them up print them out and bring them with you. 
 
I will probably be there Friday morning around 10:00A-12:00Noon and spend the night. Then fish all day Saturday. Oh my Saturday looks like it’s going to be a gorgeous day! Sunday, (not so good).
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				<div class="message"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Gentlemen, thanks so much for your comments. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">No worries about rounding up six of your friends or family. I think the USCA site is perfect for, “getting the word out” to any and all potential fishermen who would like to try something different. If all six men or women signed up I would be delighted, however, I am happy to just get to go and take someone who enjoys fishing and something different. Spoonbill snagging is a real treat for any fishermen. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I have six heavy poles that will do the trick. Nothing fancy, just adequate. If you have a heavy pole, (sometimes called boat poles, because they are short and stout), feel free to bring it with you. All poles are equipped with 45 pound test braded line; one barbless hand sharpened treble hook and 6 ounce weight. I have lots of extra weights and hooks. I will have plenty of wild boar summer sausage to go around, (jalapeño and cheese spiced) and bottled water. However you are welcome to bring snacks. Please bring rain gear and an extra jacket just in case the weather gets nasty. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">This weekend is closing in quick. I think I have one fishermen coming from OKC and one from Dallas. These guys are on call and may not make it, but that will not stop me from going. I have insurance waivers for you to sign when you arrive or you can go to my website <a href="http://www.sunandmoonfishing.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#0000ff">www.sunandmoonfishing.com</font></a> look them up print them out and bring them with you. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I will probably be there Friday morning around 10:00A-12:00Noon and spend the night. Then fish all day Saturday. Oh my Saturday looks like it’s going to be a gorgeous day! Sunday, (not so good). </span><br />
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			<title>Rounding up a Catfish Posse to go spoonbill snagging!  $50/person</title>
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*Rounding up a Catfish Posse to go spoonbill snagging! $50/person*
Dear fellow USCA fishermen, I am rounding up a catfish posse this week for an exciting spoonbill snagging trip. Snow is gone and sun is out!!! Water temp is heating up. 
A group fishing trip is very affordable fun for everyone. I am setting up two fishing trips this coming weekend. Each group of fishermen-women (six persons total per trip) can sign up to go fishing this coming weekend Saturday March 27, 2010 and or Sunday March 28, 2010. Book one seat or all six, the price is $50/seat. Please specify your desired date and how many folks you are signing up by email. sunandmoonfishingadventures@yahoo.com or calling me at 918-497-9464
Spoonbill snagging is heating up quickly. I have a comfortable 24ft pontoon boat equipped with a porta-potty. My boat seats six folks with room for your stuff; ($50 / person) which covers the gas and insurance. You pay at the boat dock before the fishing trip begins. 
We will launch around 10:00AM Saturday and Sunday morning at the Neosho River, Twin Bridges boat ramp, just off of Hwy 60. We will fish until dark or we all reach our limit of one fish each. As soon as all slots are filled I will post another blog stating that the trips are all booked up. If this works out I will be planning more "Catfish Posse" fishing trips. 
Sign up today! 
Hope to see you soon
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<span style="font-family: Arial">Dear fellow USCA fishermen, I am rounding up a catfish posse this week for an exciting spoonbill snagging trip. Snow is gone and sun is out!!! Water temp is heating up. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial">A group fishing trip is very affordable fun for everyone. I am setting up two fishing trips this coming weekend. Each group of fishermen-women (six persons total per trip) can sign up to go fishing this coming weekend Saturday March 27, 2010 and or Sunday March 28, 2010. Book one seat or all six, the price is $50/seat. Please specify your desired date and how many folks you are signing up by email. <a href="mailto:sunandmoonfishingadventures@yahoo.com"><font color="#0000ff">sunandmoonfishingadventures@yahoo.com</font></a> or calling me at 918-497-9464</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial">Spoonbill snagging is heating up quickly. I have a comfortable 24ft pontoon boat equipped with a porta-potty. My boat seats six folks with room for your stuff; ($50 / person) which covers the gas and insurance. You pay at the boat dock before the fishing trip begins. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial">We will launch around 10:00AM Saturday and Sunday morning at the Neosho River, Twin Bridges boat ramp, just off of Hwy 60. We will fish until dark or we all reach our limit of one fish each. As soon as all slots are filled I will post another blog stating that the trips are all booked up. If this works out I will be planning more &quot;Catfish Posse&quot; fishing trips. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial">Sign up today! </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial">Hope to see you soon</span><br />
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			<title>Fishing for Paddlefish in NE Oklahoma, please be mindful of the new regulations</title>
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To date, 10 March 2010 there have only been 37 total fish checked in at the Paddlefish Research and Processing Center (RPC) these poor numbers are due to the cooler than normal water temperatures. For paddlefish to spawn the water temp must be 50 deg F. Right now the water temp is still in the 40's. Sometime *next week 17th of March through the 15th of April* the temperatures should be in the 50’s. When the temperature reaches 50 the fish begin to congregate and spawn, that’s when you can sink a hook into them. 
 
I know you guys keep up with the regulations; however, there have been many complicated changes to paddlefish regulations this year. Don’t take my word for it you must go to the ODWC web site and read the *new regulations and implemented changes*. It’s maddening because all of the information you need is spread out throughout the ODWC web site. To get the facts listed below I had to: read the fishing regulations, click on the link for new regulations and follow the list of frustrating instructions to obtain a paddlefish license. 
 
1. This year Monday’s and Fridays are catch and release only 
2. Only keep one fish per day, (the fish in the live well is your fish) *you must stop fishing*! 
3. Only one barbless treble hook on your line. 
4. Spring river is closed to paddle fishing this year
5. You are required to have a paddlefish license on your person. I have a lifetime combo license that I have had since 1990. They never asked me for my fishing license number???? They wanted my gun hunter’s safety clinic number. (How to get your GHSC number?) When you search for ODWC there will be a link listed that states, “Lost your gun hunters safety clinic number, click here" That’s the only way I found mine. When I entered the number I got the paddlefish license. (go figger) I would enjoy hearing some feedback about how successful you were acquiring your paddlefish and HIP license. 
*Again, please get your license before you go up there. The paddlefish numbers are down and the law will be out in force. If you are like me and trying to follow the rules you may still get a ticket for something or other, just keep smiling and fishing. *
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">To date, 10 March 2010 there have only been 37 total fish checked in at the Paddlefish Research and Processing Center (RPC) these poor numbers are due to the cooler than normal water temperatures. For paddlefish to spawn the water temp must be 50 deg F. Right now the water temp is still in the 40's. Sometime <b>next week 17th of March through the 15th of April</b> the temperatures should be in the 50’s. When the temperature reaches 50 the fish begin to congregate and spawn, that’s when you can sink a hook into them. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I know you guys keep up with the regulations; however, there have been many complicated changes to paddlefish regulations this year. Don’t take my word for it you must go to the ODWC web site and read the <b>new regulations and implemented changes</b>. It’s maddening because all of the information you need is spread out throughout the ODWC web site. To get the facts listed below I had to: read the fishing regulations, click on the link for new regulations and follow the list of frustrating instructions to obtain a paddlefish license. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">1. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">This year Monday’s and Fridays are catch and release only </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">2. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Only keep one fish per day, (the fish in the live well is your fish) <b>you must stop fishing</b>! </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">3. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Only one barbless treble hook on your line. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">4. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Spring river is closed to paddle fishing this year</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">5. </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma">You are required to have a paddlefish license on your person. I have a lifetime combo license that I have had since 1990. They never asked me for my fishing license number???? They wanted my gun hunter’s safety clinic number. (How to get your GHSC number?) When you search for ODWC there will be a link listed that states, “Lost your gun hunters safety clinic number, click here&quot; That’s the only way I found mine. When I entered the number I got the paddlefish license. (go figger) I would enjoy hearing some feedback about how successful you were acquiring your paddlefish and HIP license. </span><br />
<b><i><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Again, please get your license before you go up there. The paddlefish numbers are down and the law will be out in force. If you are like me and trying to follow the rules you may still get a ticket for something or other, just keep smiling and fishing. </span></i></b></div>
			
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			<title>Fishing for catfish is tough this time of year.  Water temp 40 deg F.</title>
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			<description>The weather is warming up and boaters and fishermen were out on the river in good numbers.  Fishing fever is heating up quickly!  I don’t think we will have much of a spring this year; we will go directly from winter to summer. I wonder how that will affect the fishing conditions.  
I managed to catch one fish yesterday.  For which I was very grateful! One bite = one fish, (see photo) jeepers that was tough!  I have a question; does some bait perform better in the winter water temperatures? (41deg F.)  
The shad were plentiful and easy to catch, but, the one catfish I caught also seemed very lethargic. It makes me wonder what the dissolved oxygen levels were in the water.  I did not know the catfish was on the line until I began to reel in.  I was fishing on the downstream side of the bridge pilings. 
I have never fished the river this early in the year before, maybe it was just me? 
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I managed to catch one fish yesterday.  For which I was very grateful! One bite = one fish, (see photo) jeepers that was tough!  I have a question; does some bait perform better in the winter water temperatures? (41deg F.)  </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">The shad were plentiful and easy to catch, but, the one catfish I caught also seemed very lethargic. It makes me wonder what the dissolved oxygen levels were in the water.  I did not know the catfish was on the line until I began to reel in.  I was fishing on the downstream side of the bridge pilings. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I have never fished the river this early in the year before, maybe it was just me? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Any suggestions? </span><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[How to stop folks from running your lines?  It's a Public Water -vs- Private Property]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:39:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Confrontation! 
It's a Public Water -vs- Private Property debate.  It's public water we can all be out there having a good time, however, the law allows us to have private boats and private (unattended) lines in the water.  Sadly, rationalization and justification are at the root of many crimes. Such as, (It's public water so it's public property) 

Ya know, I have had tickets for wrong sized life jackets, missing registration etc. etc. etc. I would like to see Game Wardens start enforcing the fishing laws, not just the safety laws.  I have never seen a ticket given for someone running someone else's lines.  

Lately, I have experienced maximum frustration on almost EVERY fishing trip I have been on when someone else runs my lines. In Oklahoma it is not just unethical it's illegal to run someone else’s lines. I always mark my lines correctly, have the correct number of lines and do my best to watch them. I have found my jugs in others boats, seen them in the trash barrel at the boat ramp and taken them out of the back of others trucks. I have even had them re-baited by someone who took the fish off!  It’s always a shouting match, I just don’t understand? 

What to do about it?  I figure you are going to be angry either way you go. You can stand by and watch someone run your “Legally Marked” lines, say nothing and get very angry. Or you can confront them talk tough and get very angry. You are going to experience serious frustration either way you go.

I plan on getting permission to put up signs, “It’s unlawful to run other’s lines” or “ DANGER Illegal Jug runners may be mistaken for wild game!” or something like that? (lol) Most of the folks running my lines are pleasure boaters. They don’t really fish, but, they want to take some fish home.  I get really angry when there are kids in their boat with them when they are running my jugs.  I will stop them if I can.  What's wrong with these people?  I asked a psychologist friend of mine about their behavior, she said.  Their psychological profile is of a narcissistic (self-important) person who believes they have the right to run others lines.

Nearly 100% of all of the laws on the books are for narcissistic individuals who think the rest of us are just sheep that need herding and that they are supremely above the law. So, you can’t stop the sick sob’s you can only mark your lines legally, set them legally and try to stop those who run them. I have never met a narcissistic individual that was very tough, they will back down. You will still be very angry after the confrontation, but, at least you will have the pleasure of standing up to them.  Some folks say, don't say anything they will shoot you.  I don't think anyone is prepared to murder anyone over a jug line, I confront them right there on the spot.  

Once the other fishermen associate your jug lines with your boat they will even look out for each other’s lines.  I am migrating to pole fishing more all the time.  It's less of a headache. 

Quick story: There was someone in the shop where I worked eating everyone else’s lunch. I know it is very sick, however, my buddy said, "Put some razor blades in your next sandwich". Well I talked to my dad about it. He said, “No that would be a booby trap and you would be prosecuted”. He suggested I make the most beautiful sandwich I ever made and place it right out in the front of the refrigerator. (Just don’t forget to put some of your cat’s crap in the middle of it!) He will stop when he gets a belly full of cat s*#*. I did exactly that and it stopped! Keep your gear legal, that way the law is on your side. 
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">It's a Public Water -vs- Private Property debate.  It's public water we can all be out there having a good time, however, the law allows us to have private boats and private (unattended) lines in the water.  Sadly, rationalization and justification are at the root of many crimes. Such as, (It's public water so it's public property) </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Ya know, I have had tickets for wrong sized life jackets, missing registration etc. etc. etc. I would like to see Game Wardens start enforcing the fishing laws, not just the safety laws.  I have never seen a ticket given for someone running someone else's lines.  </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Lately, I have experienced maximum frustration on almost EVERY fishing trip I have been on when someone else runs my lines. In Oklahoma it is not just unethical it's illegal to run someone else’s lines. I always mark my lines correctly, have the correct number of lines and do my best to watch them. I have found my jugs in others boats, seen them in the trash barrel at the boat ramp and taken them out of the back of others trucks. I have even had them re-baited by someone who took the fish off!  It’s always a shouting match, I just don’t understand? </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">What to do about it?  I figure you are going to be angry either way you go. You can stand by and watch someone run your “Legally Marked” lines, say nothing and get very angry. Or you can confront them talk tough and get very angry. You are going to experience serious frustration either way you go.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">I plan on getting permission to put up signs, “It’s unlawful to run other’s lines” or “ DANGER Illegal Jug runners may be mistaken for wild game!” or something like that? (lol) Most of the folks running my lines are pleasure boaters. They don’t really fish, but, they want to take some fish home.  I get really angry when there are kids in their boat with them when they are running my jugs.  I will stop them if I can.  What's wrong with these people?  I asked a psychologist friend of mine about their behavior, she said.  Their psychological profile is of a narcissistic (self-important) person who believes they have the right to run others lines.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Nearly 100% of all of the laws on the books are for narcissistic individuals who think the rest of us are just sheep that need herding and that they are supremely above the law. So, you can’t stop the sick sob’s you can only mark your lines legally, set them legally and try to stop those who run them. I have never met a narcissistic individual that was very tough, they will back down. You will still be very angry after the confrontation, but, at least you will have the pleasure of standing up to them.  Some folks say, don't say anything they will shoot you.  I don't think anyone is prepared to murder anyone over a jug line, I confront them right there on the spot.  </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Once the other fishermen associate your jug lines with your boat they will even look out for each other’s lines.  I am migrating to pole fishing more all the time.  It's less of a headache. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Quick story: There was someone in the shop where I worked eating everyone else’s lunch. I know it is very sick, however, my buddy said, &quot;Put some razor blades in your next sandwich&quot;. Well I talked to my dad about it. He said, “No that would be a booby trap and you would be prosecuted”. He suggested I make the most beautiful sandwich I ever made and place it right out in the front of the refrigerator. (Just don’t forget to put some of your cat’s crap in the middle of it!) He will stop when he gets a belly full of cat s*#*. I did exactly that and it stopped! Keep your gear legal, that way the law is on your side. </span><br />
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			<description><![CDATA[*So you want to try Noodling? I recommend you watch Okie Noodler by Brad Beesley Volume I and II *
 
I have listed some thoughts i.e. how to train, and what I think, comments about the heart pounding sport of Noodling! 
 
First leson: 
Place 14 mouse traps, (not rat traps) on the kitchen counter top. Fill the kitchen sink with water. Put on a blind fold. Have your buddy place an M&M somewhere on the counter top. Stick your head in the sink and begin to feel for the M&M. If you are careful you will find it without a snap. If you get snapped, you have now felt what a catfish bite feels like. If you get snapped all 14 times your buddy ate the M&M. 


Still want to try noodling? Excellent, baby you are never alive like when you are noodling! I have taken all sorts of folks noodling. Very few retrun, why? Because it's so hard to find a fish. 
The mouse trap snap is similar to a catfish bite. The animals pop their jaws on an intruder body part. (thank goodnes their jaws get tired and they don't pop as hard as when they began). I have had my fingernails change color from jaw popping angry flatheads. My younger brother and I began our Noodling adventrue in Nebraska in around 1974 with our grandfather. He taught us how to recognize snake dens, bever holes and turtles. He was a blacksmith by trade and had fingers like a mop handle.
Secont Lesson: 
Ironically the trick to noodling is finding the fish, the second trick is getting the animal to bite your fingers, the third trick is over coming the instinct to jerk your hand away once the fish nips your fingers. Young Grasshoppa once you have achieved this point you may be 6 hours into the fishing trip. Noodling takes serious dedication. 

Third Lesson: 
Jerking you hand out of the fishes mouth once it had bit you can result in serious injury. My elbow has slammed into the rock behind me, needless to say the rock did not move. Noodling is a painful sport, and you do it while holding your breath. Once in a while you might suck in a little water. Another big ouch is when you have a poor hold of the catfish's lower jaw and it starts to spin or writhe. Oh man that is some pain! Thirty five pounds of solid muscle twisting on your fingers is beyond painful. If you have a good hold of the catfish's jaw you can push him back against a rock to keep him from spinning while the stringer man gets into position. 

Other hazards of noodling, my worst fear is rebar! Rebar sticking out of concrete will catch a human like a fish hook catches a fish. Here in Oklahoma we have a noodler killed about every year from drowning. Not turles, snakes, or beavers. The man that was killed last spring, put on scuba gear for the first time, rolled on his back to reach under a rock, got hung up on rebar, coughed, and aspirated. When my brothers and I started noodling we used a lot of liquid courage, it will make you throw caution to the wind. Five years ago my daughter's Orthodontist wanted to go with my brother and me. So we took him. Never again, he used liquid courage and sucked in some water. We did get him on a nice flathead and he said it bit me to many times and swam away. I went ahead and caught the fish and he never asked to go again. 
Noodling is a Team Sport, Noodling is a usually a team sport however my little brother, who is the "King of Noodling" usually goes by himself. He is like a machine looking for holes. Noodling is very hard work, treading water for hours at a time if you’re in a lake, if you’re in a river a heck of a lot of walking. You have to be ready to bust your butt to find a fish. 
 
Team Members: 
1. Bank Man, my uncle Frank is the bank man. He likes to hold the stringer and tell jokes. He is a riot! ( Smart man, he has never stuck his hand under a rock.)
2. Boat Man, my dad is in the pontoon boat, fishing off the back for blue gills. He likes to cheer when we string a Denison of the deep. He keeps the boat in place. 
3. Blockers, use whatever body part they have to block the hole. The area of the belly is usually used because it's larger than the other parts of your body. The fish will wedge itself into the hole at the back, side, top bottom or where ever it can. The fish will slam into your belly as hard as it can to either bite you or make an escape. Believe me it can jar air out of your lungs. (oh yea, blockers are under water too) My older brother can hold his breath for five minutes under water. He can hold it for about two minutes when a catfish is biting his fingers.
4. Stringer Man, uses a stringer to run into the mouth of the fish and out its gill flap or through its bottom lip. Gill rakes can chew your fingers up like a garbage disposal. Amazingly once the catfish is on the stringer it will bite any body part that gets near it. Flatheads are biting machines. They look docile once on the stinger, until you focus on the next hole, then wham right on the leg or butt. 
5. Noodler, the noodler is the person who is fearless, holds their breath forever, will drag a beaver out of a hole and throw it at you. Some men have been chewed on by beavers, (my grandfather Vern), they bite like a wood chipper, (it's ugly) I have had snakes strike at my face. I have pulled 40 pound snapping turtles out of a hole. The water temperature is freezing cold. Your legs are cramping and in knots.
 
In my family my younger brother is the super Noodler, the rest of us just watch in amazement. I have noodled a few big fish in my life, but, I am no match for a real noodler. The key is to work your tail off finding the hole that the fish is living in. My brother moves his hands through the rocks and creek bank like a monkey looking for a bananna. 
 
PS I read many of the comments about noodling. I dare not answer them myself, please watch Okie Noodler volume I and II. It’s a documentary and does an excellent job separating the myths from facts about noodling. 
OK, I can't resist, one quick fact: Pulling the male or female off the nest. The male liken to many fish species is the brooder of the eggs. His body is generally smaller but his head is built to bite, big and powerful jaw muscles. Yes, many times you are pulling him off of a nest of eggs. The eggs can survive if left alone, however, the other fish in the water eat them up quickly. With that admission, I did observe an R&R fishermen catch a trophy size flathead catfish, it was not on a nest at that time, however, it would have been on a nest next year if it got enough to eat. 
From all the years I have been fishing R&R and Noodling, I maintain that a cast net does more to decrease trophy fish population than any other means of fishing. If the fish can’t put on enough weight to produce, fertilize and guard the nest they must wait until they can. It’s a math equation not a mystery. My dad refuses to use a cast net. He buys his bait or catches it in a small pond. How many cast nets have you seen lately? There not an infanant number of shad living in our waters. 
Kindest Regards
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><font size="3">I have listed some thoughts i.e. how to train, and what I think, comments about the heart pounding sport of Noodling!</font> </font></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">First leson: <br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="3">Place 14 mouse traps, (not rat traps) on the kitchen counter top. Fill the kitchen sink with water. Put on a blind fold. Have your buddy place an M&amp;M somewhere on the counter top. Stick your head in the sink and begin to feel for the M&amp;M. If you are careful you will find it without a snap. If you get snapped, you have now felt what a catfish bite feels like. If you get snapped all 14 times your buddy ate the M&amp;M. </font></div></font></span><br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Still want to try noodling? Excellent, baby you are never alive like when you are noodling! I have taken all sorts of folks noodling. Very few retrun, why? Because it's so hard to find a fish. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">The mouse trap snap is similar to a catfish bite. The animals pop their jaws on an intruder body part. (thank goodnes their jaws get tired and they don't pop as hard as when they began). I have had my fingernails change color from jaw popping angry flatheads. My younger brother and I began our Noodling adventrue in Nebraska in around 1974 with our grandfather. He taught us how to recognize snake dens, bever holes and turtles. He was a blacksmith by trade and had fingers like a mop handle.</font></span></font></div><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Secont Lesson: <br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="3">Ironically the trick to noodling is finding the fish, the second trick is getting the animal to bite your fingers, the third trick is over coming the instinct to jerk your hand away once the fish nips your fingers. Young Grasshoppa once you have achieved this point you may be 6 hours into the fishing trip. Noodling takes serious dedication.</font> </div></font></span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Third Lesson: <br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="3">Jerking you hand out of the fishes mouth once it had bit you can result in serious injury. My elbow has slammed into the rock behind me, needless to say the rock did not move. Noodling is a painful sport, and you do it while holding your breath. Once in a while you might suck in a little water. Another big ouch is when you have a poor hold of the catfish's lower jaw and it starts to spin or writhe. Oh man that is some pain! Thirty five pounds of solid muscle twisting on your fingers is beyond painful. If you have a good hold of the catfish's jaw you can push him back against a rock to keep him from spinning while the stringer man gets into position. </font></div></font></span><br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Other hazards of noodling, my worst fear is rebar! Rebar sticking out of concrete will catch a human like a fish hook catches a fish. Here in Oklahoma we have a noodler killed about every year from drowning. Not turles, snakes, or beavers. The man that was killed last spring, put on scuba gear for the first time, rolled on his back to reach under a rock, got hung up on rebar, coughed, and aspirated. When my brothers and I started noodling we used a lot of liquid courage, it will make you throw caution to the wind. Five years ago my daughter's Orthodontist wanted to go with my brother and me. So we took him. Never again, he used liquid courage and sucked in some water. We did get him on a nice flathead and he said it bit me to many times and swam away. I went ahead and caught the fish and he never asked to go again. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Noodling is a Team Sport, Noodling is a usually a team sport however my little brother, who is the &quot;King of Noodling&quot; usually goes by himself. He is like a machine looking for holes. Noodling is very hard work, treading water for hours at a time if you’re in a lake, if you’re in a river a heck of a lot of walking. You have to be ready to bust your butt to find a fish. </font></span></font><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><font size="3">Team Members: </font></font></span><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">1. Bank Man, my uncle Frank is the bank man. He likes to hold the stringer and tell jokes. He is a riot! ( Smart man, he has never stuck his hand under a rock.)</font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">2. Boat Man, my dad is in the pontoon boat, fishing off the back for blue gills. He likes to cheer when we string a Denison of the deep. He keeps the boat in place. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">3. Blockers, use whatever body part they have to block the hole. The area of the belly is usually used because it's larger than the other parts of your body. The fish will wedge itself into the hole at the back, side, top bottom or where ever it can. The fish will slam into your belly as hard as it can to either bite you or make an escape. Believe me it can jar air out of your lungs. (oh yea, blockers are under water too) My older brother can hold his breath for five minutes under water. He can hold it for about two minutes when a catfish is biting his fingers.</font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">4. Stringer Man, uses a stringer to run into the mouth of the fish and out its gill flap or through its bottom lip. Gill rakes can chew your fingers up like a garbage disposal. Amazingly once the catfish is on the stringer it will bite any body part that gets near it. Flatheads are biting machines. They look docile once on the stinger, until you focus on the next hole, then wham right on the leg or butt. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">5. Noodler, the noodler is the person who is fearless, holds their breath forever, will drag a beaver out of a hole and throw it at you. Some men have been chewed on by beavers, (my grandfather Vern), they bite like a wood chipper, (it's ugly) I have had snakes strike at my face. I have pulled 40 pound snapping turtles out of a hole. The water temperature is freezing cold. Your legs are cramping and in knots.</font></span></font><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><font size="3">In my family my younger brother is the super Noodler, the rest of us just watch in amazement. I have noodled a few big fish in my life, but, I am no match for a real noodler. The key is to work your tail off finding the hole that the fish is living in. My brother moves his hands through the rocks and creek bank like a monkey looking for a bananna. </font></font></span><br />
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<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">PS I read many of the comments about noodling. I dare not answer them myself, please watch Okie Noodler volume I and II. It’s a documentary and does an excellent job separating the myths from facts about noodling. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">OK, I can't resist, one quick fact: Pulling the male or female off the nest. The male liken to many fish species is the brooder of the eggs. His body is generally smaller but his head is built to bite, big and powerful jaw muscles. Yes, many times you are pulling him off of a nest of eggs. The eggs can survive if left alone, however, the other fish in the water eat them up quickly. With that admission, I did observe an R&amp;R fishermen catch a trophy size flathead catfish, it was not on a nest at that time, however, it would have been on a nest next year if it got enough to eat. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">From all the years I have been fishing R&amp;R and Noodling, I maintain that a cast net does more to decrease trophy fish population than any other means of fishing. If the fish can’t put on enough weight to produce, fertilize and guard the nest they must wait until they can. It’s a math equation not a mystery. My dad refuses to use a cast net. He buys his bait or catches it in a small pond. How many cast nets have you seen lately? There not an infanant number of shad living in our waters. </font></span></font><br />
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e">Kindest Regards</font></span></font></div></blockquote>

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			<description><![CDATA[So you want to try Noodling?  I recommend you watch Okie Noodler by Brad Bessley Volume I and II 
I have listed some, how to train, and what I think comments about the heart pounding sport of Noodling!  
First leson: Place 14 mouse traps, (not rat traps) on the kitchen counter top.  Fill the kitchen sink with water. Put on a blind fold.  Have your buddy place an M&M somewhere on the counter top.  Stick your head in the sink and begin to feel for the M&M.  If you are careful you will find it without a snap.  If you get snapped, you have now felt what a catfish bite feels like.  If you get snapped all 14 times your buddy ate the M&M. 
Still want to try noodling?  Excellent, baby you are never alive like when you are noodling!  I have taken all sorts of folks noodling.  Very few retrun, why? Because it's so hard to find a fish.  
Mouse traps snap is similar to a catfish bite.  The animals pop their jaws on an intruder body part.  (thank goodnes their jaws get tired and they don't pop as hard as when they began).  I have had my fingernails change color from jaw popping angry flatheads.  My younger brother and I began our Noodling adventrue in Nebraska in around 1974 with our grandfather.  He taught us how to recognize snake dens, bever holes and turtles.  He was a blacksmith by trade and had fingers like a mop handle. 
Ironically the trick to noodling is finding the fish, the second trick is getting the animal to bite your fingers, the third trick is over coming the instinct to jerk your hand away once the fish nips your fingers.  Young Grasshoppa once you have achieved this point you may be 6 hours into the fishing trip.   Noodling takes serious dedication.  
Jerking you hand out of the fishes mouth once it had bit you can result in serious injury.  My elbow has slammed into the rock behind me, needless to say the rock did not move.  Noodling is a painful sport, and you do it while holding your breath.  Once in a while you might suck in a little water.  Another big ouch is when you have a poor hold of the catfish's lower jaw and it starts to spin or writhe.  Oh man that is some pain!  Thirty five pounds of solid muscle twisting on your fingers is beyond painful.  If you have a good hold of the catfish's jaw you can push him back against a rock to keep him from spinning while the stringer man gets into position. 
Other hazards of noodling, my worst fear is rebar!  Rebar sticking out of concrete will catch a human like a fish hook catches a fish.  Here in Oklahoma we have a noodler killed about every year from drowning.  Not turles, snakes, or beavers.  The man that was killed last spring, put on scuba gear for the first time, rolled on his back to reach under a rock, got hung up on rebar, coughed, and aspirated.  When my brothers and I started noodling we used a lot of liquid courage, it will make you throw caution to the wind.   Five years ago my daughter's Orthodontist wanted to go with my brother and me.  So we took him.  Never again, he used liquid courage and sucked in some water.  We did get him on a nice flathead and he said it bit me to many times and swam away.  I went ahead and caught the fish and he never asked to go again. 
Noodling is a Team Sport, Noodling is a usually a team sport however my little brother, who is the "King of Noodling" usually goes by himself. He is like a machine looking for holes. Noodling is very hard work, treading water for hours at a time if you’re in a lake, if you’re in a river a heck of a lot of walking.  You have to be ready to bust your butt to find a fish. 
Team Members: 
1.     Bank Man, my uncle Frank is the bank man. He likes to hold the stringer and tell jokes. He is a riot!  ( Smart man, he has never stuck his hand under a rock.)
2.     Boat Man, my dad is in the pontoon boat, fishing off the back for blue gills. He likes to cheer when we string a Denison of the deep.  He keeps the boat in place. 
3.     Blockers, use whatever body part they have to block the hole. The area of the belly is usually used because it's larger than the other parts of your body. The fish will wedge itself into the hole at the back, side, top bottom or where ever it can. The fish will slam into your belly as hard as it can to either bite you or make an escape.  Believe me it can jar air out of your lungs. (oh yea, blockers are under water too) My older brother can hold his breath for five minutes under water. He can hold it for about two minutes when a catfish is biting his fingers.
4.     Stringer Man, uses a stringer to run into the mouth of the fish and out its gill flap or through its bottom lip. Gill rakes can chew your fingers up like a garbage disposal. Amazingly once the catfish is on the stringer it will bite any body part that gets near it. Flatheads are biting machines. They look docile once on the stinger, until you focus on the next hole, then wham right on the leg or butt.  
5. Noodler, the noodler is the person who is fearless, holds their breath forever, will drag a beaver out of a hole and throw it at you. Some men have been chewed on by beavers, (my grandfather Vern), they bite like a wood chipper, (it's ugly) I have had snakes strike at my face. I have pulled 40 pound snapping turtles out of a hole.  The water temperature is freezing cold.  Your legs are cramping and in knots. 

In my family my younger brother is the real Noodler, the rest of us just watch in amazement. I have noodled a few big fish in my life, but, I am no match for a real noodler. The key is to work your tail off finding the hole that the fish is living in.  My brother moves his hands through the rocks and creek bank like a monkey looking for a bananna. 

PS I read many of the comments about noodling. I dare not answer them myself, please watch Okie Noodler volume I and II. It’s a documentary and does an excellent job separating the myths from facts about noodling. 
OK, I can't resist, one quick fact: Pulling the male or female off the nest.  The male liken to many fish species is the brooder of the eggs.   His body is generally smaller but his head is built to bite, big and powerful jaw muscles.  Yes, many times you are pulling him off of a nest of eggs. The eggs can survive if left alone, however, the other fish in the water eat them up quickly.  With that admission, I did observe an R&R fishermen catch a trophy size flathead catfish, it was not on a nest at that time, however, it would have been on a nest next year if it got enough to eat. 
From all the years I have been fishing R&R and Noodling, I maintain that a cast net does more to decrease trophy fish population than any other means of fishing.  If the fish can’t put on enough weight to produce, fertilize and guard the nest they must wait until they can.   It’s a math equation not a mystery.   My dad refuses to use a cast net.  He buys his bait or catches it in a small pond.  How many cast nets have you seen lately?  There not an infanant number of shad living in our waters.  
Kindest Regards
 


 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">So you want to try Noodling?  I recommend you watch Okie Noodler by Brad Bessley Volume I and II </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">I have listed some, how to train, and what I think comments about the heart pounding sport of Noodling!  </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">First leson: Place 14 mouse traps, (not rat traps) on the kitchen counter top.  Fill the kitchen sink with water. Put on a blind fold.  Have your buddy place an M&amp;M somewhere on the counter top.  Stick your head in the sink and begin to feel for the M&amp;M.  If you are careful you will find it without a snap.  If you get snapped, you have now felt what a catfish bite feels like.  If you get snapped all 14 times your buddy ate the M&amp;M. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Still want to try noodling?  Excellent, baby you are never alive like when you are noodling!  I have taken all sorts of folks noodling.  Very few retrun, why? Because it's so hard to find a fish.  </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Mouse traps snap is similar to a catfish bite.  The animals pop their jaws on an intruder body part.  (thank goodnes their jaws get tired and they don't pop as hard as when they began).  I have had my fingernails change color from jaw popping angry flatheads.  My younger brother and I began our Noodling adventrue in Nebraska in around 1974 with our grandfather.  He taught us how to recognize snake dens, bever holes and turtles.  He was a blacksmith by trade and had fingers like a mop handle. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Ironically the trick to noodling is finding the fish, the second trick is getting the animal to bite your fingers, the third trick is over coming the instinct to jerk your hand away once the fish nips your fingers.  Young Grasshoppa once you have achieved this point you may be 6 hours into the fishing trip.   Noodling takes serious dedication.  </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Jerking you hand out of the fishes mouth once it had bit you can result in serious injury.  My elbow has slammed into the rock behind me, needless to say the rock did not move.  Noodling is a painful sport, and you do it while holding your breath.  Once in a while you might suck in a little water.  Another big ouch is when you have a poor hold of the catfish's lower jaw and it starts to spin or writhe.  Oh man that is some pain!  Thirty five pounds of solid muscle twisting on your fingers is beyond painful.  If you have a good hold of the catfish's jaw you can push him back against a rock to keep him from spinning while the stringer man gets into position. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Other hazards of noodling, </span></font><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">my worst fear is rebar!  Rebar sticking out of concrete will catch a human like a fish hook catches a fish.  Here in Oklahoma we have a noodler killed about every year from drowning.  Not turles, snakes, or beavers.  The man that was killed last spring, put on scuba gear for the first time, rolled on his back to reach under a rock, got hung up on rebar, coughed, and aspirated.  When my brothers and I started noodling we used a lot of liquid courage, it will make you throw caution to the wind.   Five years ago my daughter's Orthodontist wanted to go with my brother and me.  So we took him.  Never again, he used liquid courage and sucked in some water.  We did get him on a nice flathead and he said it bit me to many times and swam away.  I went ahead and caught the fish and he never asked to go again. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Noodling is a Team Sport, <font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Noodling is a usually a team sport however my little brother, who is the &quot;King of Noodling&quot; usually goes by himself. He is like a machine looking for holes. Noodling is very hard work, treading water for hours at a time if you’re in a lake, if you’re in a river a heck of a lot of walking.  You have to be ready to bust your butt to find a fish. </span></font></span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Team Members: <br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">1.     </span></font><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Bank Man, my uncle Frank is the bank man. He likes to hold the stringer and tell jokes. He is a riot!  ( Smart man, he has never stuck his hand under a rock.)</span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">2.     </span></font><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Boat Man, my dad is in the pontoon boat, fishing off the back for blue gills. He likes to cheer when we string a Denison of the deep.  He keeps the boat in place. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">3.     </span></font><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Blockers, use whatever body part they have to block the hole. The area of the belly is usually used because it's larger than the other parts of your body. The fish will wedge itself into the hole at the back, side, top bottom or where ever it can. The fish will slam into your belly as hard as it can to either bite you or make an escape.  Believe me it can jar air out of your lungs. (oh yea, blockers are under water too) My older brother can hold his breath for five minutes under water. He can hold it for about two minutes when a catfish is biting his fingers.</span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">4.     </span></font><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Stringer Man, uses a stringer to run into the mouth of the fish and out its gill flap or through its bottom lip. Gill rakes can chew your fingers up like a garbage disposal. Amazingly once the catfish is on the stringer it will bite any body part that gets near it. Flatheads are biting machines. They look docile once on the stinger, until you focus on the next hole, then wham right on the leg or butt.  </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">5. Noodler, the noodler is the person who is fearless, holds their breath forever, will drag a beaver out of a hole and throw it at you. Some men have been chewed on by beavers, (my grandfather Vern), they bite like a wood chipper, (it's ugly) I have had snakes strike at my face. I have pulled 40 pound snapping turtles out of a hole.  The water temperature is freezing cold.  Your legs are cramping and in knots. </span></font><br />
<br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">In my family my younger brother is the real Noodler, the rest of us just watch in amazement. I have noodled a few big fish in my life, but, I am no match for a real noodler. The key is to work your tail off finding the hole that the fish is living in.  My brother moves his hands through the rocks and creek bank like a monkey looking for a bananna. <br />
<br />
PS I read many of the comments about noodling. I dare not answer them myself, please watch Okie Noodler volume I and II. It’s a documentary and does an excellent job separating the myths from facts about noodling. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">OK, I can't resist, one quick fact: Pulling the male or female off the nest.  The male liken to many fish species is the brooder of the eggs.   His body is generally smaller but his head is built to bite, big and powerful jaw muscles.  Yes, many times you are pulling him off of a nest of eggs. The eggs can survive if left alone, however, the other fish in the water eat them up quickly.  With that admission, I did observe an R&amp;R fishermen catch a trophy size flathead catfish, it was not on a nest at that time, however, it would have been on a nest next year if it got enough to eat. </span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">From all the years I have been fishing R&amp;R and Noodling, I maintain that a cast net does more to decrease trophy fish population than any other means of fishing.  If the fish can’t put on enough weight to produce, fertilize and guard the nest they must wait until they can.   It’s a math equation not a mystery.   My dad refuses to use a cast net.  He buys his bait or catches it in a small pond.  How many cast nets have you seen lately?  There not an infanant number of shad living in our waters.  </span></font></span></font><br />
<font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma"><font color="#3e3e3e"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Kindest Regards</span></font></span></font><br />
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i hear alot of talk about how good of bait it is, but nobody comparing it to other baits, shad, sand bass, or buffalo ect, i have used it before but didn't see a noticable diffrence in the bite over shad or sand bass, i have a uncle that catches crappie like we do catfish or some of us, usually 37 crappie per his trip, depending on the lake, so i'm definally not of lack of them if i wanted to use them, just didn't think to always use them, so just wondering on the comparison rate,
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Bro, I really think it depends on the water you ar fishing.  I used cut carp in Texoma and the pole action was fast and furious.  I used cut carp in Keystone and never even had a piece of bait taken?  I think it depends on what the fish have trained themselves to eat.  
 
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				<div class="message">i hear alot of talk about how good of bait it is, but nobody comparing it to other baits, shad, sand bass, or buffalo ect, i have used it before but didn't see a noticable diffrence in the bite over shad or sand bass, i have a uncle that catches crappie like we do catfish or some of us, usually 37 crappie per his trip, depending on the lake, so i'm definally not of lack of them if i wanted to use them, just didn't think to always use them, so just wondering on the comparison rate,</div>
			
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</div>Bro, I really think it depends on the water you ar fishing.  I used cut carp in Texoma and the pole action was fast and furious.  I used cut carp in Keystone and never even had a piece of bait taken?  I think it depends on what the fish have trained themselves to eat.  <br />
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Regards</blockquote>

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			<title>What do the words Game Fish mean to you?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:04:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[As a catfish fishing guide I often hear the words, "I would never eat a bottom sucking creature like a catfish! (as they bite into their hot dog). Then follow with "In my family we only fish for Game Fish like bass". 
 
Well now aren't you special! These statements take me down many paths. To tell a quick story, our church put on it's very first "bass" tournament. I entered the tournament with one goal in mind. To stick the largest bass caught into the mouth of 30 pound flathead catfish that I caught. A friend of mine, (Jerry) did just that. He put the largest bass caught into the flathead's mouth! He said the largest bass was 3 pounds, Steven caught a 35 pound flathead catfish he then declared me winner of this fishing tournament! The older wiser members asked me what I thought. I said "well gentlemen if you take the "cat" off of catfish you are left with "fish" if you take the "B" off of bass you are left with a**.
 
Liken to many of you I did try the bass fishing thing for several years. There is no way I could compete with the bass blasters of this world. 50K for a boat, 50K for a truck to pull it and 10K worth of electronics. That opens a whole new can of worms, is tournament bass fishing really fishing? To me, it's simply gambling using a fishing pole. To me the definition of fishing is to make or catch some bait, cast out, catch the fish, clean and eat the fish. I wish they would remove the word fishing from bass fishing tournament. Sadly, in my most humble opinion Bass tournaments are full of gambling junkies trying to with the jackpot! 
 
Back to the words Game Fish, What pencil pushing person came up with the decision to classify fish into categories. "Game Fish" 
 
Now I ask you, what is the apex predator in fresh water? Is it the large mouth bass? Heck no! It's a flathead catfish. The flathead catfish is the most difficult to catch, (they only eat live fish) hardest fighting, best eating fish in fresh water. (forgive me it's only my opinion). I don't know a single state that classifies flathead catfish as a quote "Game Fish". To me Bass are not to sharp, you can catch one on an artificial lure. Yes on occasion catfish do bite lures, however, for the most part, a catfish has to know it's something to eat before it bites. I thank goodness for the Okienoodler specials that are airing all over the US, UK and other countries. Flatheads and cat fishing in general is gaining new respect! 
 
Well, it's our responsibility to right the wrongs, (in our own subtle way), I correct every customer I have taken fishing as to the feeding habits of all catfish, bullhead, channel, blues and flatheads. I hope to correct the state department with it's classifying "Game Fish". The term should be dropped completely! For goodness sakes all fish are "Game Fish!" 
 
Regards 
Steven ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">As a catfish fishing guide I often hear the words, &quot;I would never eat a bottom sucking creature like a catfish! (as they bite into their hot dog). Then follow with &quot;In my family we only fish for Game Fish like bass&quot;. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Well now aren't you special! These statements take me down many paths. To tell a quick story, our church put on it's very first &quot;bass&quot; tournament. I entered the tournament with one goal in mind. To stick the largest bass caught into the mouth of 30 pound flathead catfish that I caught. A friend of mine, (Jerry) did just that. He put the largest bass caught into the flathead's mouth! He said the largest bass was 3 pounds, Steven caught a 35 pound flathead catfish he then declared me winner of this fishing tournament! The older wiser members asked me what I thought. I said &quot;well gentlemen if you take the &quot;cat&quot; off of catfish you are left with &quot;fish&quot; if you take the &quot;B&quot; off of bass you are left with a**.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Liken to many of you I did try the bass fishing thing for several years. There is no way I could compete with the bass blasters of this world. 50K for a boat, 50K for a truck to pull it and 10K worth of electronics. That opens a whole new can of worms, is tournament bass fishing really fishing? To me, it's simply gambling using a fishing pole. To me the definition of fishing is to make or catch some bait, cast out, catch the fish, clean and eat the fish. I wish they would remove the word fishing from bass fishing tournament. Sadly, in my most humble opinion Bass tournaments are full of gambling junkies trying to with the jackpot! </span><br />
 <br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Back to the words Game Fish, What pencil pushing person came up with the decision to classify fish into categories. &quot;Game Fish&quot; </span><br />
 <br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Now I ask you, what is the apex predator in fresh water? Is it the large mouth bass? Heck no! It's a flathead catfish. The flathead catfish is the most difficult to catch, (they only eat live fish) hardest fighting, best eating fish in fresh water. (forgive me it's only my opinion). I don't know a single state that classifies flathead catfish as a quote &quot;Game Fish&quot;. To me Bass are not to sharp, you can catch one on an artificial lure. Yes on occasion catfish do bite lures, however, for the most part, a catfish has to know it's something to eat before it bites. I thank goodness for the Okienoodler specials that are airing all over the US, UK and other countries. Flatheads and cat fishing in general is gaining new respect! </span><br />
 <br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Well, it's our responsibility to right the wrongs, (in our own subtle way), I correct every customer I have taken fishing as to the feeding habits of all catfish, bullhead, channel, blues and flatheads. I hope to correct the state department with it's classifying &quot;Game Fish&quot;. The term should be dropped completely! For goodness sakes all fish are &quot;Game Fish!&quot; </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Regards </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Steven </span></span></blockquote>

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			<title>Catching Shad, Is there any other methods of catching shad other than a cast net?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:42:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The older I get (48) the less my shoulders are willing to cooperate with a cast net.  I may be throwing it wrong but, no matter how I throw it my shoulder gets worn out.  Is there any other effective way to catch shad?  I have been searching online and have found that a light, (lantern) at night and an umbrella net will produce effective amounts of shad.   
 
Does anyone know of a report of shad being depleted from an area due to over fishing?  There are so many striper guides launching in the Verdigris river where I fish scooping up enough shad for a week of fishing and leaving.  It get's difficult for me to even catch enough shad for a fishing trip.  I know it's legal for them to collect shad, however, it is frustrating to wear my shoulder completely out trying to catch a few leftover shad.  Sometimes I wonder if there is enough left for the fish to eat.   I realize that shad fishing has been discussed many times on this blog site.   
 
I realize I can change to another type of bait, i.e. blood bait, dip bait, etc., however, shad has always been my best producer for blues and flatheads.  
 
I am going to ask my customers if they want to try their hand and carp fishing.  I know it sounds different, however, carp fishing in Europe is big business.  (opening a can of corn is a lot easier on the shoulder than pitching a cast net 100 times)   I may even add carp fishing to my web site.  Any carp fishermen out there willing to comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="blogcontent restore">The older I get (48) the less my shoulders are willing to cooperate with a cast net.  I may be throwing it wrong but, no matter how I throw it my shoulder gets worn out.  Is there any other effective way to catch shad?  I have been searching online and have found that a light, (lantern) at night and an umbrella net will produce effective amounts of shad.   <br />
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Does anyone know of a report of shad being depleted from an area due to over fishing?  There are so many striper guides launching in the Verdigris river where I fish scooping up enough shad for a week of fishing and leaving.  It get's difficult for me to even catch enough shad for a fishing trip.  I know it's legal for them to collect shad, however, it is frustrating to wear my shoulder completely out trying to catch a few leftover shad.  Sometimes I wonder if there is enough left for the fish to eat.   I realize that shad fishing has been discussed many times on this blog site.   <br />
 <br />
I realize I can change to another type of bait, i.e. blood bait, dip bait, etc., however, shad has always been my best producer for blues and flatheads.  <br />
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I am going to ask my customers if they want to try their hand and carp fishing.  I know it sounds different, however, carp fishing in Europe is big business.  (opening a can of corn is a lot easier on the shoulder than pitching a cast net 100 times)   I may even add carp fishing to my web site.  Any carp fishermen out there willing to comment.</blockquote>

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