New Deer mount I did the 2nd Deer Mount [Archive]

cats4uandme

02-22-2006, 09:08 PM

this cape is much darker than illinois as you can see the armpits are brown. here they are white. the cape is from a taxidermist from new york state accompanied with all the legal #ers. the illinois antlers was shot and tagged back in 2001. and the form is a texas style whitetail shoulder semi offset right turn. i put all that togather to make a mount. so its a real puzzle.

Little Mac

02-22-2006, 09:22 PM

Hey Jerm, When doing this type of work how much strength is needed in the hands. I have a little Arthritis in my hands, but not too bad. I've wanted to learn to do this and Take on a few mounts during deer season, But am worried If my hands would hold up to it. By the way, Nice work Never seen one with its tounge hangin out as a mount. Mac

RIP

02-22-2006, 09:39 PM

Great job! How long have you been doing this?

cats4uandme

02-22-2006, 09:40 PM

thats the idea, my name when i start getting into this this season along with fish is WILDLIFE ILLISTRATIONS. meaning i can do stuff that others don't lol.

well i can tell ya one thing. the sewing is a bit rough. i don't have a sewing palm yet but getting one. then when ya pull the thread you use the leather to take off the strain and the metal palm to ease the needle through the hides. also the streaching of the hide is alot of hand work. but streachers are available from 30 to hundreds of $. depending on how many ya do. other than that if ya can use a dremel tool and do a bit of painting its not real hard work. more tricky than anything.

cats4uandme

02-22-2006, 09:41 PM

Great job! How long have you been doing this?

thats only my second head ive ever done. did two this winter.

glenmorebuckman

02-22-2006, 09:43 PM

Hey, that's a great looking mount you did! I have done 2 mounts myself , the one in my avatar on the right was my first. How long did it take you to mount yours? I did this one in about 10 total hours using a wet tan and my second one took about 8 hours. Did you dry tan or wet tan? I'll see if I can show you a bigger picture of it. The 12 pointer, I had mounted by a pro the season before I did the 8 pointer and I can definitely say I'd rather do my own. You get much more out of it. I also have arthritis but it doesn't seem to get in the way doing mounts. I'd like to try to do one like yours with the deer eating, maybe my next one. Also, wanted to tell you an easy way of stretching your hide before slipping it on the mount, also a lot cheaper than stretchers. Take an inner tube and fold it up inside your hide then slowly air it up until you get the correct stretch you want. Beats all that tugging and pushing!

RIP

02-22-2006, 09:46 PM

Looks like you've been doing it for years. good job!

cats4uandme

02-22-2006, 09:51 PM

looks good. i did a wet tan. flesh, salt, pickle the hide, final flesh,then oil. i really didn't keep track of how long. i fooled around quite a bit with the air brush and toungue. not long though.

i caped out a button buck in 15 min and took maybe 20 min to rough flesh and salt. then froze. its in the acid bath now till tomorrow. putting a set of small ten point antlers on it as my first show peice. it was a road kill my friend hit on feb 2nd. its legal in illinois to claim roadkill deer. if ya do the processing your self ya don't have to report it. ya just have to keep the date sex and location of the kill on hand till all parts are consumed. but to keep as a mount i will need to call the illinois department of conservation and get #.

glenmorebuckman

02-22-2006, 09:58 PM

I tried Krowtann 2000 on my second mount and will never use anything else. It really takes a lot of the work out of it. Just rough flesh , mix the tan with salt and water, then soak the cape in it for a couple of days keeping it turned, then take it out, rinse and do the final fleshing and it's ready to mount or can be froze for later mounting. It's got great stretch to.

cats4uandme

02-23-2006, 03:20 PM

i seen that in mckenzy catalog. they showed a couple mounts that was done with it. i might try that this next season. no salting or acid bath just one soaking. does sound easy.

quackkillsduxs

02-23-2006, 08:28 PM

good lookin mount

Little Mac

02-23-2006, 09:01 PM

Thanks Guys, I would rather do my own and make a little extra on the side. We have about 4 Taxidermist That I know of In my area of this country, and they are always Covered up. Poor guys dont have time to hunt anymore. HeHe. One guy folded up shop and quit. Said he didnt have time to do anything. Went back to an 8 hour job. Good lookin mounts fellas. Mac

beeheck

02-23-2006, 09:15 PM

Wow, very impressive.

John Rogers

02-25-2006, 11:09 AM

Nice mount, I like the mink also. I think thats a mink, I've only seen one in the wild.

Cherokee

02-27-2006, 04:23 PM

Very nice mounts:D

cats4uandme

02-28-2006, 06:31 PM

yep. thats a mink.

getting ready to start my 3rd. the 10 point antlers are from the fella that i did the antler mounts for. he gave me them for my button buck road kill i called in. the antlers tagged back in 2000 with an either sex archery tag have now been modified into a 20 point with droppers and stickers. pictured below. he will be licking his nose. i modified the antlers to test my ability so when it comes to when or if i ever need to repair a broken tine for a coustomer.

im getting real crazy with this cause it will be my shop piece like a jackalpoe. since this button buck was small this will on first look seem like a future record that was taken before its time.

BullDaddy

02-28-2006, 06:34 PM

Good looking mount. I just got the Wasco catalog. I have been wanting to do this for a while.

cats4uandme

02-28-2006, 06:51 PM

my wasco catalog just came last week. it has lots of exotic things i had not seen in mckenzie and vandykes.

so far vandykes seems to be the cheapest on thier forms. but didn't have one of any type for my button buck so i got it from mckenzie. mck has a hanger pre set into thier forms though and ship within 24hrs and vandykes about 3 days before they ship. still ok. havent ordered from wasco as of yet. they have corner forms and converters for making any deer mount into corner mount. before mounting of course.

check out the artificial water. thats the $h)%. i can't wait to start doing fish.

BullDaddy

02-28-2006, 06:54 PM

How long to get the hide ready to mount after you fleshed it?

cats4uandme

02-28-2006, 07:23 PM

there is a couple ways.

the old fashoned way. after its rough fleshed then it needs a 24 hr salting. (rub skin with salt and roll up hair out) this sets hair and draws out bacterial moisture. then it needs to be pickled. (acid bath) i used vandykes pickeling crystals. 3 oz per gallon water. takes 5 gal for a whitetail. so 1 lb crystals + 1 lb salt per gallon. so 5lb salt. put the salt and crystals in 1 gal hot to disalve and pour intop 4 gal cold. this process takes two days. then finish fleshing. the face fleshes and thins better after pickeling. then oil it with taning oil. let soak in fro severla hrs. then its ready. so 5 days it can be mounted.

there is a new product out called krotan 2000. you rough flesh and place into the tan solution for 4-5 days and finish fleshing. then mount. im gonna tey that next season.

or instant preserve. doesn't tan but dries. it has to be completly fleshed right off the bat. all red meat has to come off now. then rub on instant preserve and mount.

cats4uandme

03-07-2006, 03:46 PM

well heres the button buck raod kill from feb 2nd. there are some pins to keep tear ducts in place. even the truck that took him.

cats4uandme

03-07-2006, 03:53 PM

this is some close ups. im really getting this down fast. i will be starting comercial taxidermy soon. deer this season and fish ill be practicing on my own this year. hopfully getting a fancy air brush soon too. this one is just to get me started. my friends are impressed. at the deer and turkey classic there were several looking at the one eating and taking lots of pics.

cats4uandme

03-07-2006, 03:54 PM

here are the close ups.

cats4uandme

03-07-2006, 03:55 PM

here are pics of all 3.

David Knotts

03-18-2006, 02:56 PM

You do good work.

grunt11b

04-17-2006, 03:32 AM

How happy is the 10 posts rule? I have posted more then ten times since joining?

grunt11b

04-17-2006, 03:35 AM

wanna see good taxidermy work? Look up Phil Faulkner in Kentucky, he does great work.

grunt11b

04-17-2006, 03:39 AM

You do good work.

If he is just starting out, yes he does. But if he has been doing this awhile, I am afraid not. those deer look sickly. I'm sorry dude, stay away from the whle straw eating mount, it looks nasty and rediculous. I ave over 5 head mounts, ones a 16 point, and they all here done by Phil Faulkner out of penbroke kentucky and turned out great, he mounts for the drury brothers and primos and all of them guys when they are in that area. That straw idea is great. but you need more work to perfect it, I'm sorry, just constructive critisism is all.

cats4uandme

04-18-2006, 03:13 PM

they were my first 3 deer. don't really care who jim faulkner is. if he mounts for primos hes a professional obviously. if ya read the posts carefully it says that im just starting out and after the 3 got better each time i have several coustomers that seen them and are having me do all thier work this year.

the straw mount had hundreds and hundreds of groups taking pic's and asking Q's at the deer and turkey classic this year. its all an opinion on each part.

and the mink may be in the 2007 van dykes taxidermy catalog:)

and sick and redicouliuos are pretty strong words for a fella whom doesnt read the posts before he opens up a can of worms like that. ya that was something new than the standard mount. i made the tounge out of epoxy. just to get practice at it. for my second i was damb proud.

cats4uandme

04-18-2006, 03:25 PM

if you don't like the eating mounts then don't get one. eating mounts ahve won world compitions. when i open shop this fall ill give the coustomers what they want. not what i have heard from others.

a wild boar eating a rattlesnake won the world game head compition (best of head). so not all feel the way you do. you obviously like the (same ol same ol) mount that looks exactly like the tens of thousands already out there. as a taxidermist i want to be the best i can be and not limited to a standard mount.

these were done for a good buddie and his father that wanted to help me out in getting statred. i did all three just from watching one video. after i do some research and get a few years under my belt old jim may have some stiff compition.:p

TeamCatHazzard

04-18-2006, 03:37 PM

Thats not a bad lookin mount man! I dont know as if I have ever seen one eating like that. Nice job! I take it your tryin to start your own taxidermy service? Good luck with it man! Love to see more pics when you get more mounts done!

catfishjohn

04-18-2006, 03:38 PM

cats4uandme

04-18-2006, 03:47 PM

i think they look pretty darn good if you ask me,especially just starting out.they say practice makes perfect,it looks to me like you pretty well got this down pat!!! keep posting pics of your work!!!

be trying to do a fish real soon. getting the supplies and gonna do a stinking old bass first. lol.

shoot the mink i did at cost just cause i had never ever tried anything like that. never even skinned a small animal unless just ripping it off to eat it. the face detail was not that bad really. it turned out so good the guys brother i did it for said to charge him for it. lol , i siad i can't do that but the next one will be alot more than $40. lol.

i have a beaver that i taned for a trapper this season. he gave it to me. it will be mounted soon. whole body mount with reproduction teeth and tail.

and a friend just got a big old tom this weekend. i may be mounting it. nothing like crash course. and the fella that i did the deer for gave me the wings off his tom and ill be making a wall ahnging from them. been reading up on it for a bit.

ladyfish50

04-28-2006, 09:55 PM

To all of you who posted your work...beautiful. My husband used to do alot of that; it's definitely an art form. In fact, he "sews" prettier seams than I do! He still does a little. I'm waiting on him to mount my Blackbuck that's in my avatar. But to all you guys...keep up the awesome work! Don't let this become a lost art.:cool2: