postbeetle
10-25-2007, 04:18 AM
A coon man in a deer hunting thread you ask. We will get to the deer hunting shortly and I will ask you some questions.
Yesterday p.m. I was fishing my small front pond catching out channels I have caught over the summer from the river. I put them in this pond and they have a smorgasboard of food and clean the river mud out of them by fall. In pulls my coon guy. He is the only one I now allow to hunt my place, and he has hunted here for 18 years. He likes to talk and I like to listen. After talking coons hides and dogs we start talking deer.
He has been hunting coon 42 years and has it in his blood like beer is in mine. This will probably be his last year. Each year finds it more difficult to hunt because ground is getting pulled out from under him, not for coon but because of deer. He told me this story. 15 miles East of me, 642 acres of mixed ground got sold to a guy from Milwaukee this spring. Timber, pasture, running water, farm ground, much like mine but 6 times more ground. The guy is involved in filming trophy deer hunting for Television. He has started 3 other of these projects in 3 other states. Ohio and Illinois and someplace else.
Here is what he's doing. He bought the ground for 1,500,000 dollars cash. He posted the place with 200 No Trespassing and hunting signs. He put 18 trail cameras on this place. He has most of the adjacent land cash leased with hunting rights to him only. ALL hunting rights, coon, coyote, deer, birds. One clause in the lease states no other guns are even allowed on the places. He threw out a renter on his place because the man had guns in his house. He is paying cash leases of up to 3,000 dollars a farm. He is sewing up a fairly large block of good ground. Here, if you are caught and convicted for trespassing, if it even goes to court, it is usually 300.00 bucks. He has publicly stated that because this enterprise is a "business and his livelihood" he is going to go after people at $20,000 a crack. He has the money and lawyers to go after a trespasser big time. I wouldn't want to be his first example. He is doing this because he has the money and he is trying to get record scoring deer for his enterprise.
Finally, my questions are these. He is not the only one, thousands of acres are bought in this county by out of area moneyed people doing the same or similar things. Nobody can compete because they have too deep a pocket. Is it happening in your area? Can he make this go? I have seen deer up to 5 miles away from my place that were residents on my property all year. Bucks I am talking about. Does and small bucks will not travel far, maybe a mile. The big guys move and move and move. If he gets want he wants in the way of big bucks is he raising them for somebody else? We are in a "good ol' boy" community here, if he pees enough people off and he is already doing it I can imagine some serious things happening here, just another complication in a complicated world.
Are you guys seeing the same thing? John.
Yesterday p.m. I was fishing my small front pond catching out channels I have caught over the summer from the river. I put them in this pond and they have a smorgasboard of food and clean the river mud out of them by fall. In pulls my coon guy. He is the only one I now allow to hunt my place, and he has hunted here for 18 years. He likes to talk and I like to listen. After talking coons hides and dogs we start talking deer.
He has been hunting coon 42 years and has it in his blood like beer is in mine. This will probably be his last year. Each year finds it more difficult to hunt because ground is getting pulled out from under him, not for coon but because of deer. He told me this story. 15 miles East of me, 642 acres of mixed ground got sold to a guy from Milwaukee this spring. Timber, pasture, running water, farm ground, much like mine but 6 times more ground. The guy is involved in filming trophy deer hunting for Television. He has started 3 other of these projects in 3 other states. Ohio and Illinois and someplace else.
Here is what he's doing. He bought the ground for 1,500,000 dollars cash. He posted the place with 200 No Trespassing and hunting signs. He put 18 trail cameras on this place. He has most of the adjacent land cash leased with hunting rights to him only. ALL hunting rights, coon, coyote, deer, birds. One clause in the lease states no other guns are even allowed on the places. He threw out a renter on his place because the man had guns in his house. He is paying cash leases of up to 3,000 dollars a farm. He is sewing up a fairly large block of good ground. Here, if you are caught and convicted for trespassing, if it even goes to court, it is usually 300.00 bucks. He has publicly stated that because this enterprise is a "business and his livelihood" he is going to go after people at $20,000 a crack. He has the money and lawyers to go after a trespasser big time. I wouldn't want to be his first example. He is doing this because he has the money and he is trying to get record scoring deer for his enterprise.
Finally, my questions are these. He is not the only one, thousands of acres are bought in this county by out of area moneyed people doing the same or similar things. Nobody can compete because they have too deep a pocket. Is it happening in your area? Can he make this go? I have seen deer up to 5 miles away from my place that were residents on my property all year. Bucks I am talking about. Does and small bucks will not travel far, maybe a mile. The big guys move and move and move. If he gets want he wants in the way of big bucks is he raising them for somebody else? We are in a "good ol' boy" community here, if he pees enough people off and he is already doing it I can imagine some serious things happening here, just another complication in a complicated world.
Are you guys seeing the same thing? John.