View Full Version : New World Record Whitetail!!!
kkyyoottee
08-21-2007, 07:53 PM
Now that I have your attention I want to ask you guys/gals this. If that hit the newspapers with your name after it would you sell the deer and all the rights to it? If you anwser yes what would be the price?
My anwser is I could never sell it. It would be like selling a piece of me. No I just couldnt do it. This comes up time to time in our travels. What are you guys opinion?
Paraguayguy
08-21-2007, 08:28 PM
I'd sell that deer in a New York Minute. No taxidermy stuff on my walls. I take pictures and eat or give away what I kill. A set of horns would mean absolutely nothing to me. I trapped two jaguars, countless pumas, and a bunch of ocelots in Paraguay in 1977. I thought about having some of them made into rugs but decided to sell them all to the hide buyer instead. I never regretted doing it. Two kids starting college soon. I'd use the money for that. All this is speculation because a world record whitetail in VA is about as likely as hitting that big multi-state lottery. Good luck to everyone.
CatFishingFinatic
08-21-2007, 08:35 PM
I would or could never sell it! Part of the memory is photos, racks, and mounts. I would keep my memory. They could however pay me to bring my trophy to special events, that I would consider. With extreme security. I mean I was real nervous about taking my deer to the Iowa Deer Classics. As a matter of fact, we didnt' even take him for the entire weekend, we took him over for the last few hours of the event to be scored and a few people look at him and we never left the property, but I had to keep checking on him. Plus I wrote several emails to verify security and proper handling. I had heard some horror stories and was very nervous.
derbycitycatman
08-21-2007, 09:08 PM
Id sell it but would want a pretty penny. Im not too high on taxidermy either dont really know why. I would want enough to buy the house of my dreams on the land of my dreams and enough left over to pay the taxes for awhile. Would a world record be worth millions? Especially once you say what products you used during the hunt. My ..... rifle loaded with ...... powder and a ........ bullet. Not to mention my .... camo and .... tree stand and .... It could go on for quite a while.
CatfishJohn.612
08-21-2007, 09:27 PM
I could sell it. I would have the memories and photos of the hunt. The mount really don't mean squat to me. I think I would do like Brian said, Make the money in the advertising to get me some money for my dream hunting property.
squirtspop
08-21-2007, 09:51 PM
why would one want to sell it? You'd be rich from just all the endorsements you'd get.
Scott Daw
08-21-2007, 11:10 PM
No way!! not unless I was about to lose my home and seriously needed the money. then we'd be talking mid to high 6 figures.
fishnfwl
08-21-2007, 11:14 PM
Sell it buy more land on the river and a new boat then go for the WR Flathead!!!!! :wink:
FishMan
08-22-2007, 06:26 PM
................................sold.............. ............................
Angler2007
08-22-2007, 06:31 PM
well, I would sell it under one stipulation. First it is going to cost them a bunch of money but they are going to make me a few replicas.
catfishrus
08-22-2007, 07:29 PM
well i would never sell it myself. i personally dont think it should be allowed to sell antlers. look at this way how many big bucks have hit the dirt from poachers due to the thoughts of being able to sell the antlers. so why even help the poachers out that hunt your land and everybody by setting them up for the value of antlers. just not right in my book and i think it could be the down fall of the sport we like so much. kind of like selling catfish to pay lakes from public waters. money wont buy my hard earned pride. i will leave it for the next generation to decide on. now a replica to them i might nego. if they want one. im keeping the real deal. i am surprised that money would rule this sport when most dont think of it as a rich mans game. i guarnatee you 9 out of 10 would be broke in less than 10 years from the sell of a world record whitetail. just not a road i want to travel. by the way in my state it is against the law to sell antlers. just my opinion
i do have a question for those that would sell them though. how would it benfit the sport by you selling them?
223reload
08-22-2007, 07:39 PM
I would never sell any of the few racks i have including ...If I ever was lucky enough to get a record book buck or fish or any thing I harvested for that matter.
kycatman01
08-22-2007, 07:53 PM
Well, if the price is right, I would be gone pretty fast. I'm really not one to mount a deer, anyway. I guess if it was a huge deer then it would be a different story. I would definately sell it, though. I could really use the $ and I would always know in my heart that the deer taken down by yours truely. That is what really matters anyway, right?
CatfishHateMe
08-22-2007, 08:12 PM
i dont think i could, like was stated before, just by saying what gear you used would get you alot of money anyway. i wager that if you had mossy oak boxers on wihout any other camo mossy oak would jump on that opertunity to use that as a marketing ad. well, maybe not boxers but you get the idea.
kkyyoottee
08-22-2007, 08:21 PM
well i would never sell it myself. i personally dont think it should be allowed to sell antlers. look at this way how many big bucks have hit the dirt from poachers due to the thoughts of being able to sell the antlers. so why even help the poachers out that hunt your land and everybody by setting them up for the value of antlers. just not right in my book and i think it could be the down fall of the sport we like so much. kind of like selling catfish to pay lakes from public waters. money wont buy my hard earned pride. i will leave it for the next generation to decide on. now a replica to them i might nego. if they want one. im keeping the real deal. i am surprised that money would rule this sport when most dont think of it as a rich mans game. i guarnatee you 9 out of 10 would be broke in less than 10 years from the sell of a world record whitetail. just not a road i want to travel. by the way in my state it is against the law to sell antlers. just my opinion
i do have a question for those that would sell them though. how would it benfit the sport by you selling them?
I was waiting for a post such as yours before I made clear some of my thoughts.
1. I think the woods is full of "lotto hunters" they are not out there for the true sport. It is the idea they may hit the jackpot!!! And we wonder why the anti's and peta have a hay day with us?
2. We have taken a tradition and turned it into a "trophy" world. And dont think our kids pick up on this.
3. The most prized deer of my 30 years hunting came last year. It was my first year using carbon arrows and a new broadhead. A "doe" came sneaking up the river bank for me to watch and admire. As my scouting predicted she would stop at log on trail then proceed. At which time I would have a broadside shot!! It was a hunt to perfection "she" came and stopped and I let go and to my amazement the arrow hit ground on other side. At first I thought how could of I missed? The deer kinda looked around and fell on ground in "her" tracks. I climbed down the tree kinda of numb. On examining "her" she turned into a "he". I wouldnt sell that whole deer let alone the head for a million dollars. But hay thats just me.
Cathooker
08-22-2007, 09:28 PM
Not only would I NOT sell it I doubt seriuosly if I would let it be offically scored. Just think of all the people snooping around trying to dig up dirt on you just to try to prove you did something illegal. You would be hounded night and day. Your privacy would be gone and your family would be subjected to all kinds of garbage. Nope....I don't want to shoot the world record deer.
David Knotts
08-22-2007, 09:57 PM
I couldn't sell it, I've hunted my whole life, and if one that big came by, and I could keep the cross haires on it, to get a shot. Then it's stayin at my house, on my wall. The taxidermist that I would use, would have to let me stay at his place for the whole time he had my rack.
Reason for that last coment was, I have a few bass that I got mounted, and 3 of them I know for a fact are not the fish that I caught. So I don't truse a lot of taxidermists.
Now I would let who ever make some replicas, but I would be gettin a percentage of the sells.
I'm not going to say I would not sell the antlers because money talks. But I can say i have all of the antlers from any buck I killed with lots of them in my livingroom. As of right now in my life I can recal the events of the hunt for each of those which makes of fond memories. I have friends that can throw them on a wood pile and never look at them again, not me they are charrished posessions in my book. If I did kill a world record buck and sold the antlers, I would kind of feel like I was prostututing the thing I love.
Kutter
08-23-2007, 02:27 AM
I would not just up an sell it. Nope, got to work this one just right. First off, I'de not let it known I was the one who shot it. Then, let it go to the highest bidding idiot who has money and is too $@$#^$ to go out an shoot his own record. Let him have all the glory, for the right price. Now, I know a lot of you would not find favor with my approach. That's fine, an you have nothing to worry about anyway, I'm a meat huntin doe killin type, not a trophy buck hunter. I'm also an opportunist and would not let a trophy walk. Antlers are nice to have around. I've got a few boxes of them laying around,,,,,,,,,somewhere.
kkyyoottee
08-23-2007, 10:56 AM
Funny how when money enters into a situation our thoughts are suddenly bought. No wonder the saying "Money is the root of all evil" is still alive and kicking today!!!:ooooh:
catfishrus
08-23-2007, 11:55 AM
im still thinking on this one. we all have seen the jimmy houston thing and nobody has a good word to say about it that i have seen. isnt this the same thing in some ways....shooting to sell. now i like to trophy hunt just as much as anybody that does. i really dont need the meat myself and i would never waste any of it but i like the thrill of getting one of the smartest creatures roaming the woods. to me they are a differnert breed of animal. they act totally differnet and most of the time are noctural. same way with my fishing....i want that giant fish. i was made a offer to buy the biggest fish i ever caught from a fellow but it never entered my mind to sell that fish. the fellow watched as i threw him back. now hes free i thought. all you have to do is catch him. i took a lot of pride in myself for catching that fish and spent alot of time fishing on the water to get him. that fish was priceless to me. same way with a whitetail or any other animal for me. all the preasure you would feel to sell a world record whitetail is the same preasure that is causing all these high fence ranches to open up. its putting a bad name on the true hunter to me. so im still not going to sell. i rather watch him walk away as to sell the antlers.
derbycitycatman
08-23-2007, 12:20 PM
im still thinking on this one. we all have seen the jimmy houston thing and nobody has a good word to say about it that i have seen. isnt this the same thing in some ways....shooting to sell. now i like to trophy hunt just as much as anybody that does. i really dont need the meat myself and i would never waste any of it but i like the thrill of getting one of the smartest creatures roaming the woods. to me they are a differnert breed of animal. they act totally differnet and most of the time are noctural. same way with my fishing....i want that giant fish. i was made a offer to buy the biggest fish i ever caught from a fellow but it never entered my mind to sell that fish. the fellow watched as i threw him back. now hes free i thought. all you have to do is catch him. i took a lot of pride in myself for catching that fish and spent alot of time fishing on the water to get him. that fish was priceless to me. same way with a whitetail or any other animal for me. all the preasure you would feel to sell a world record whitetail is the same preasure that is causing all these high fence ranches to open up. its putting a bad name on the true hunter to me. so im still not going to sell. i rather watch him walk away as to sell the antlers.
Good thoughts on the subject but I think there is a difference between fair chase hunting and fenced hunting. I dont think fenced hunting is eligible for records but I could be wrong. You could still get a nice reproduction done of the animal and make your money and like someone mentioned you could probably still make plenty of money off endorsements. Ive had offers on one of mine but it wasnt enough. Id take the buck regardless if Im going to sell him or not, the selling would be dependent if it the pay off was "enough". I feel regardless of selling it or not, I still take the deer and Id still have all the memories, Id just be sharing him with someone else. I guess Id have to make enough money to live with myself for selling it off.
catfishrus
08-23-2007, 12:46 PM
derby there is a difference in high fence and fair chase with b&c club but one of the main reason we seeing all these high fence ranches go up is the value of the deers antlers. its not for the chance to shoot a deer....its about antlers and value of them. most of these places are artifical breeding those deer to bring a high price for the antler growth on their herd. its a black eye on the fair chase hunts guided or not. trophy management is also putting a halt to hunting for a lot of folks too. its taking up alot of land.
Kutter
08-23-2007, 01:42 PM
"Money is the root of all evil"
I could of swore my parents told me I was the root of all evil.
No, wait, it was the parents of all my friends that said that.
WylieCat
08-23-2007, 02:18 PM
First of all, I don't think the price offered would outweigh the money to be made from owning the original. Licensing for replica mounts is in the six figures, and licensing for use with products is in the six figures. Trade show appearances are also a source of significant income, but you have to be a hustler to make all this happen.
Second, the amount ACTUALLY paid for a mount and the amount RUMORED that Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mountain, and others pay is drastically different. If I could get what is rumored to be paid, i.e. $1,000,000, heck yes I would sell it! The truth is that the number is probably somewhere in high five figures to low six figures, so you would be better off holding on to the mount and marketing it yourself.
Third, the mounts value drops dramatically after it becomes the #2 rack, so strike while the iron is hot!!!!
billNpam
08-23-2007, 02:30 PM
I would not sell it for any price. Its not about how big the animal is or the money. It is all about the memories. Me and my son went hunting one year and he killed his very first and only deer a nice little fork horn. And I kick my self for not having it mounted but to me this is a world record. To see the look on my son's face and me being there and sharing that special moment this is the true trophy
Besides horns dont taste good any ways kinda tough
Paraguayguy
08-23-2007, 03:25 PM
Sold, Sold, and sold again. Retired early and lots of loving and hunting with my gal in south america. Oh yeah, I'm already about half doing that.
bluejay
08-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Sold, Sold, and sold again. Retired early and lots of loving and hunting with my gal in south america. Oh yeah, I'm already about half doing that.
Your an old antler sellin old ****. LOL
David Knotts
08-23-2007, 06:12 PM
The first deer that I killed with my little boy, was when he was 2, it was Isaacs first time to go huntin, right at dusk a nice 6 point walked out, Isaac saw it, birddoged it. I took the shot, Isaac looks at me, gives me a HIGH five, and a hug. I worked my butt off to get the money to mount that deer. Now Isaac is 6, he asks me all the time to tell him the story of his first hunt. The memories of that one hunt makes me a millionaire in my heart. I would'nt sell that one, and I dang sure would'nt sell the new world record.
Believer
08-23-2007, 07:01 PM
I would certainly sell it and I wouldn't think twice about it. I would want a very high price for it as well as a reproduction mount. :big_smile:
postbeetle
08-23-2007, 07:12 PM
This is what I would do and I have done it on "quality" deer. Take my skinning knife, remove his head between the occipital bone and 1st cervical vertebrae. Use the neck for soup. Leave his head for the mice and make the rest of him into sausage, with a lot of added pork to take the testosterone levels in his meat down. Buy a nice box of crackers when his meat comes back from the locker, crack a beer and dream about next years hunt.
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bullet
09-03-2007, 10:49 AM
i'd sell it for what ever cabelas or bass pro would pay me for it. i'd also make them pay me for a replica set
charlestoncatman
09-04-2007, 08:39 PM
i will never have a trophy on my wall anyways..id sell it...and id endorse everyone that would pay me to ...as long as i got the meat...mmmm venison chili
kkyyoottee
09-04-2007, 09:26 PM
i will never have a trophy on my wall anyways..id sell it...and id endorse everyone that would pay me to ...as long as i got the meat...mmmm venison chili
My wife thought that for 6 years!!! never had a deer even in cross hairs till 2 years ago when she popped the largest deer shot by a woman with a muzzleloader that year. But she never give up!!! She would not sell that deer for a hundred grand!!!
catgetter1
09-18-2007, 09:43 PM
well, I would sell it under one stipulation. First it is going to cost them a bunch of money but they are going to make me a few replicas.
Neva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
flathead willie
09-19-2007, 02:47 AM
why would one want to sell it? You'd be rich from just all the endorsements you'd get.
That's right! There would be more money in endorsements. I'd keep it and let my estate sell it after I'm gone.
BullDaddy
09-19-2007, 04:14 AM
I wouldn't sell it, but I would you would see me and the replica at all the outdoors show. I would tell you all about how I was in this stand and wearing these clothes and this cover scent and this gun.....:big_smile:
jeffw51
09-19-2007, 07:48 AM
[quote=postbeetle;742125]This is what I would do and I have done it on "quality" deer. Take my skinning knife, remove his head between the occipital bone and 1st cervical vertebrae. Use the neck for soup. Leave his head for the mice and make the rest of him into sausage, with a lot of added pork to take the testosterone levels in his meat down. Buy a nice box of crackers when his meat comes back from the locker, crack a beer and dream about next years hunt.
eat up john and drink lots of beer, that there meat is worth eleven thousand dollars a pound!
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