This makes me sick

[massa_jorge]

man i couldn't finish that damn video.

[blindfly69]

http://www.real-hunters.com/full.swf Jimmy Houston hunting caged/drugged deer in indiana....i might throw up....

[stickusmc]

that is truly pathetic what a shame:angry:

[BIG-G]

What a man! And folks will watch his show and buy the garbage he plugs. Thanx for sharein.

[Dwednuts]

Canned hunts are for sissys that are afraid they might get their feet muddy or find a tick. It is a shame that these things are even allowed in the first place. It is the same as going to a place where you have to pay to fish(PL)!!!!
Some folks just have to much money and are afraid to face an animal or fish in it's own turf.

[teaysvalleyguy]

Thanks for shareing, that is very sad.

I guess money can buy just about anything.

[ilkeeper1965]

Truly disturbing video, thanks for sharing.

[postbeetle]

JW is right. Somebody has money for this crap. Somebody else wants to take it. Whether it is NASCAR, football, pro wrestling, hunting or whores. Somebody will pay for it. Somebody else will use it to make more money. It will never change. Only we as individuals can do anything. I do my part by not participating. The brainless don't know any better.

[Da Chummer]

That is about as messed up as it gets. It looks like somewhere along the line they forgot the meaning of the word "HUNT". That would be like fishing in a bucket. All that and i still can't believe that one deer that walked right up to that guy and he still shot it sadly in the hind quarter and at that range couldn't even get a good shot. That crap should be illegal. Teddy is rollin in his grave for sure. :angry:

[BassCat]

That crap really makes me SICK!!!! I will never watch Jimmy Houston on TV again!! or buy anything he endorses!! that is really, really, SICK!!!

[krowbar]

That really makes me sick. I never knew the problem was so bad. People need to do something about this.

[dragon86]

hmm wonder how they would fell if we druged and fenced them in then took turns shooting at them.

[Dwednuts]

hmm wonder how they would fell if we druged and fenced them in then took turns shooting at them.
Now that is a fresh Idea!!!! Where and when do I sign up, LOL!!! Of course we would have to use those fancy rubber bullets and blunt arrows so they would last longer, LOL!!!

[TX Fisherman]

that just aint right, thats truly a sad thing, having to hunt deer in a cage where the animal aint got a chance... i agree it makes me sick

[Cathooker]

I agree it is a bad thing but ole Jimmy Houston is not the first to film like that....several others did it back in the 80's...they did not get caught....Noel Feather did and he got caught....the list is long and the practice was used over and over again so these guys could get their VIdeos on the market.....they shot everything from hogs to bears this way......the hunters are not the only ones who produced those outdoor videos under false pretense....there were a few of the so called fishing greats did it for the weekly tv shows also....every wonder how one man could catch so many HUGE bass on one 30 minute tv show???....over a period of time you say?....they had no more than three days to fish each week to meet the deadline for the show. They do things differently on those shows now because they are filmed over an entire year and then aired the follwing year. But back years ago they weren't. A used to be famous TV fisherman here in Ga had several friends supply him with live bass for his show.

I think this practice is as dishonest as stealing a man's boat and I absolutely hate it. It makes us legitimate outdoors men and women look bad.

[TX Fisherman]

as a matter of fact Cathooker i did wonder how some of them TV show guys caught so many bass, truly sad how that works

[tkyhnt]

Alan, I could not say it any better. The truth of the matter is that this is more common than anyone of us think, and as land access continues to shrink unfortunatly this type of hunt will only increase unless examples are made out of the ones convicted. There cannot be any "slaps on the wrist for this" :angry:

[kstrucker]

it's stuff like this that makes us look bad to the non hunting public. these people ought to be ashamed.:angry:

[DemolitionMan]

Well, Jimmy Houston got caught, but no use assuming every show is rigged...The way Jimmy done it is pathetic for sure....A crook is a crook, that's all I got to say about it.....They'll take a dollar the "easiest" way they can get it.....Thanks for sharing that and making me aware of something like that going on.....I didn't realize....Dwight

[derbycitycatman]

Ive seen it before and its not any easier watching it now. Truly disgusting and sad. Might as well shoot cows or somebody's dog.

[catchinghogs]

That is just sad and pathetic.

[Believer]

Outfitting is one thing, but this is aweful!

[GUNTZ]

THAT MAKES ME SICK (I AM DONE WATCHING HIS SHOW):sad2:

[steveg442]

This is very sick. Bobby, I sent emails to Basspro and ESPN with a plea to remove any and all endorsement for him.

[alands94]

This really is disgusting. A real sportsman would never stoop this low.

[alands94]

This is very sick. Bobby, I sent emails to Basspro and ESPN with a plea to remove any and all endorsement for him.


Great idea. I'll do the same.

[sleekcraft]

disgusting :angry:

how could man do this

[steveg442]

Besides Basspro and Espn, I also added Blakemore Lures and Ranger boats. I sent them the link of the video. I hope it upsets them as much as it did me.

[hunterchet]

Thank you for sharing that video. I will no longer watch Jimmy Houstons show or buy anything that he endorses. High fence hunting should be outlawed.

[Hoopie]

Those are some dispicable people. I couldnt even watch the whole video.

[whiskerlover]

I couldnt even watch the whole thing. screw you Jimmy Houston! What a pos.

[dewboy24us]

after that he should have his hunting license revoked for life.

[Cathooker]

The really BAD thing about this kind of garbage is that it gives the animal rights wackos ammunition to use against us. Let's face it ...there is a lot more folks that do not hunt or fish than there is of us that do....the animal rights folks use this stuff in their anti hunting propaganda campaigns. When they have brainwashed enough of the general public with their lies and this stuff, then more and more laws will get enacted against us. If you think it can't or won't happen then sit back and watch....the folks in England said that it could never happen.....it did. There is an awful lot of lil old blue haired ladies that have a powerful vote in this country, and they can be swayed very easily to vote against us. The folks that do the kind of stuff that Houston did are throwing gasoline on an already hot burning fire. The HSUS (humane society of the United States) is already on a multimillion dollar campaign to stop hunting, fishing, rodeo, horse racing, dog racing, animal farming......etc. Wayne Paccelle, the president of the HSUS, has publicly stated that his main mission in life is to stop all animal use. They dupe folks into thinking that they are affiliated with your local animal shelter and to date they have not spent one dime of their millions to help one dog or cat at a local shelter. They have powerful lobbyists in Washington working very diligently trying to get gun control and anti hunting legislation pushed thru.
We must police our own ranks and give a very positive image to the general public. The Houston video is a big set back.

[CATFISH1998]

That sucks. My oldest son can't wait till he can go hunying. He thinks The deer walk right up to you as he watches the hunting shows on tv. I tell hem that is not the way it is out there. I am going for my 65th deer this year. An not one has been in a cage. Well the one that got hit by a car was in my moms yard.

[SkiMax]

Everybody should definately send some e-mails to his sponsors. Like everybody else said, this is what give the true hunters and fisherman (the ones that are true environmentalist and understand an ecosystem, fair hunts, and conservation) a bad name. what a shame, I am going to start a new post on here with a petition that I will send to BPS, Ranger, etc. please sign it if you feel like this is wrong, but individual e-mails will go alot farther so do that too!

I think most of PETA members are extremist that do not follow common sense or even sound scientific research (hunting helps a deet population as a whole, as i'm sure you guys all know). If there was a PUTA (People against the UNethical Treatment of Animals) I would join in a heartbeat.

[SkiMax]

Petition against Jimmy Houston for unethical and immoral hunting and unremorsefully harming an ecosystem and species for profit.

1. Max Howard

[tkeyhunter]

I really liked Jimmy Houston. That video is beyond disturbing. Makes me begin to wonder if he is actually catching fish, or if some diver is putting them on the hook for him. Dang it, I really liked Jimmy Houston.

[THRowSOmeStink]

That has to the most pethetic video i have ever seen. Just makes you wana throw up. Thanks for sharing and i wont be watching or buying anything jimmy houston endorses. :angry:

[catcatcher311]

This is maybe the most disrespectful things I have ever I can't believe they propped that buck up and shot it. This is where P.E.T.A. gets there ammo at us sportsman that truly like to better our sport and get more people involved in a safe and fun sport.

[droptine77]

Makes me sick. I used to like Jimmy. Wonder if the dude who shot the buck and the arrow bounced off realizes just how stupid he looked.

[JPritch]

I grew up watching Jimmy Houston....I feel duped.

Also was a huge fan of Michael Vick. And we all know his character now.

It seems that most of the famous people out there have little to no moral foundation. Not the type of people I will teach my kids to look up to.

Jimmy Houston = BANNED in my book.

[JPritch]

I ask that you all take 30 sec of your time to sign this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/020206/petition.html

[steveg442]

I just wanted to post the response I received from Blakemore Lures. If you look at the Mr Stallings title you can see how much they care about this issue. Also posted are their products, which you may chose not to buy, I know I am choosing not too. It seems money is the most important thing here and Jimmy Houston probably has made these people a bunch.

Here's my original email (bottom) plus the responses:



Ron <ron@tticompanies.com> wrote:
Thank you for your interest in our company.


This is very old news and we appreciate your concern.

Thank you,

Ron Stallings
ron@tticompanies.com
TTI-Blakemore Fishing Group
Pro Staff Manager
Retail Projects Manager, (RN)
Special Accounts
S.N.E.W.T.D. (Stuff No one Else Wants To Do)
TTI -Blakemore Fishing Group-Home of Tru-Turn, Daiichi,X Point, Mr. Crappie & Stand Out Hook Brands
Blakemore-Road Runner Lures, Reel Magic, Rod Floaters
P.O. Box 1177 Wetumpka, AL. 36092(334)-567-2011 ext. 210 Fax (334)-567-9788Note: Blood Red is a registered trademark and Bleeding Bait is a registered trademark of TTI Companies.

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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:52 PM
To: Ron@tticompanies.com
Subject: Jimmy Houston

Please see the attached link.http://www.real-hunters.com/full.swf
Is this a sportsman?
Is this what you want to represent your company?

[TRP1]

Reminds me of a time my uncle invited me to go to a pheasant hunt at the Hunt club he belonged to. They took the birds out of cages, kicked them in the butt to get them to fly while guys shot at them. The whole thing made me want to throw up. Got in the truck and left.

[SkiMax]

Steve, i just sent them an e-mail too. We'll see how, if, they respond to me.

[JPritch]

Ron Stallings seems like he could care less.

[GUNTZ]

if we all email basspro and espn maybe something will get done about this,(this cruel and very ,very :angry::ah:sick)

[blindfly69]

if we all email basspro and espn maybe something will get done about this,(this cruel and very ,very :angry::ah:sick)
i agree.. but what exactly should we include in our emails???? prolly links to the video??

[jbarnes17]

That kind of B.S. makes me sick.

[catfishrus]

if i remeber correctly the owner of that ranch only had to spend 366 days in jail on a mandatory 2 year sentence. there is more to this story other than the video which deals with the penalties. jimmy huston got out lite by turning state evidenece. i cannot remember all the details but i think the ranch owner was good friends with a congressman too that helped out with his sentcencing. look on ebay right now and you will find whitetail hunts with a guarn. trophy size for sale right now! like i said the first time i saw this. looks like a bunch of rich pen pals to me. now look at how much money jimmy was going to make off that video by duking the general public. these places are no more than fishing in a pay lake that is stocked by public waters. some of these dieases those deer carry could very well get into the wild deer around them and carry on from there at the publics exspense. you know when all them does come into heat that every buck in the neighbor hood is walking that fence line. it needs to be stopped completely.

[jpn]

:angry:boy it really takes talent to kill a pet. I never in my life seen such.Let them pay 20,000 for that nonsense and they'll put us out of the hunting business for good. I think I'll hold on to my $$$ and use it for taxes on my own property.

[south_va_fisherman]

Every saturday morning i watch jimmy houston outdoors. DEFINATELY NOT ANYMORE. What he did is absolutely disgusting and inhumane. What was the point in putting it in 3 acres and torturing it? if they had it in captivity, they could have at least put it down without the stress they put it through. He just went against everything he stands for with conservation. I hope this man is no longer seen on TV and has nothing to do with the outdoors i enjoy.

[PhillyCatcatcher4]

What do you expect from a slick a$$ guy like JH.:0a9:

[baitshop 2]

i think the networks should ban his shows and we wouldnt have to see his ugly mug any more this is sick and makes it hard for realsportsman and women to get real respect that he or she deserves

[bwillaub]

This just makes me ill. As a sprtsman I forget how many losers there are out there who are looking for any edge they can get. I will never watch another JH Outdoors.

[Mi11er]

That video makes me sick:angry:. I hate to say it but those places will be the downfall of hunting. We need to fight to close those places and bring the good name of hunting back. I don't see the fun in shooting a deer that you have to "PROP UP" on some brush???:ooooh: AND pay $15000 dollars to do it. That is a disgrace:angry:

[barrelbritches]

I am thru with that dude , will not buy a piece of gum that is on one of his ads.

[cats4uandme]

What a man! And folks will watch his show and buy the garbage he plugs. Thanx for sharein.

i sure as hell wont be. add names if ya all got em. i wont buy any sportsman crap promoted by cruel practices like this.

i just got my tags this week. look forward to hunting deer in the wild here where all fences can be jumped. does and all. there isnt a recipe in my books that call for antlers. i hunt for the venison. and that feeling i got last season when i shot my first deer ever. and ended up with two by the end of season and 2 reported fresh killed by cars. one was hit by me. were still eating venison.:wink: and this was my first year hunting. its a shame these fools have more money than they know what to do with. and to think jimmy used real sportsmans money to practice such garbage.

[JEFFRO67]

The really sad thing is There are several whitetail farms in illinois that grow trophy bucks to boone & crocket and pope & young standards and then sell these cage raised trophy bucks to these jerks that own these huge fenced in hunting properties. for upwards of $25,000 whether it be to shoot for a wall hanger or use the monster bucks for stud porposes. i saw a show on the illinois channel about this. what the heck has happened to just Good old hunting like it used to be. I also saw a website where you can remotely from your computer pay 3 or 4 grand to shoot a trophy buck from the convenience of your computer chair via a web cam mounted on a high powered rifle. now thats really pathetic.

[JEFFRO67]

I wonder if Jimmy has a scuba dude underwater hookin up all his fish for him out of an underwater cage too?

[JEFFRO67]

I`ll almost bet money jimmy houston isn`t the only celebrity hunter fisherman that has done this. what about babe winkleman or even god forbid tom miranda or ted nugent I sure hope i`m wrong but this is a big deal for tv ratings. as sick & twisted as it may be.

[BILLYP]

That was one of the worst videos that I have ever seen. People like that should be put in those pins with a agressive buck and let them get what they deserve.

[blindfly69]

its a really sad thing to know one of your childhood heroes has been doin this with all the money from his sponsorships.....

[Redd]

man i couldn't finish that damn video.

I couldn't finish it either, bud...I'm no peta wanna-be, but that litterally made my stomache churn. I'm not against leasing plots of land or guided hunts, but that's just unsportsman-like, cruel, and utterly pathetic...

-Red

[Cattoo]

um.... i don't get it. hell if somebody was gonna blow my brains out i would much rather be drugged! i don't hunt and i don't believe it is very sporting to sit in a tree and hide while a deer comes to a baited spot and then shoot it. i mean really what kind of chance does the deer have anyway? oh yeah, you could miss. i am not against hunting and i love deer meat but i still don't see it as sporting. if you want to be a sportsman, sit in that tree with a large rock or spear. now thats sporting. better yet, hide somewhere on the ground. level the playing field a bit.

[gunny169]

I watched a tiny bit of the video and it made me madder than hell. I love to deer hunt but in good concience i could not, would not do anything like that and if those folks had any morals/ common sense they would realize that all they are doing is giving the anti-hunting groups ammunition. I'm sorry this is wrong,wrong,wrong and we need to hold these people accountable for their actions or the lack of !!!!! :angry:

[derbycitycatman]

um.... i don't get it. hell if somebody was gonna blow my brains out i would much rather be drugged! i don't hunt and i don't believe it is very sporting to sit in a tree and hide while a deer comes to a baited spot and then shoot it. i mean really what kind of chance does the deer have anyway? oh yeah, you could miss. i am not against hunting and i love deer meat but i still don't see it as sporting. if you want to be a sportsman, sit in that tree with a large rock or spear. now thats sporting. better yet, hide somewhere on the ground. level the playing field a bit.

Imagine all the wounded and crippled deer that rock and knife hunting would cause. IMHO one of the things about hunting is making a quick humane kill, not to prolong the suffering as long as possible. For what its worth, I hunt from the ground, stalking and from a tree stand. Ive killed deer every way and have been successful with bow, muzzle loader and rifle. As a hunter I will use whatever tools available to me to get the deer Im after.

I wonder if you follow your ideals when fishing? Its not very "sporting" to use a fancy rod and reel, not to mention a fancy store bought hook. Worst of all is "baiting" them. If you want to be a "sporting" fisherman maybe you should use bone hooks, natural line and cut your own rod, you know give the fish a chance. Perhaps you should wait with a rock or home made wooden spear until the fish swims to you. Maybe noodling is the only sporting method of fishing? You do want to be a "sportsman" dont you?

[lil kat]

Well I finlly got to a comp to be able to download this and watch it. I have a few things to say about this and all people involved in it....IT IS SICK, DISCUSTING,PATHETIC,ECT AND AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT i BELIVE THEY NEED TO BE DRUGED AND TREATED LIKE THE ANIMALS WERE IN THE VIDEO!!!!!! Shoot them with one of those round tipped arrows like that one deer was when it bounced off of it. Let them see how it feels to be druged and then shot at. Also as far as Jimmy Houston goes he is no SPORTSMAN, he issomething you wipe off you shoe after walking threw a cattle feed lot (for ones of you that dont know what that means it is cow manure). I have the perfectsoulition to the problem here....very tall tree and very short peice of rope!!!! :angry:

[catfishbills]

Amazing, but like someone stated earlier in this post......no telling how many people that are "hunting hero's" do this EVERY season! There are others that do it! "Team Realtree" guys do Almost All of there filming on "pay" hunts. A few trips are on there property that Bill Jordon owns in Georgia (HIGHLY managed land) VERY,VERY low hunting pressure, year round bait piles and feed stations, is that REALLY much different? I also know that there are hundreds of such operations in Missouri, Texas (thousands of such operations) Michigan,Pa, the list goes on and on...just get on the internet and look up "deer hunts" Its amazing!!!!!!! I have hunted and "harvested" several VERY nice bucks in my lifetime, but all but 1 have been taken on "public" land! The 1 buck on private land was taken on my own 6 acres of land with nieghbors that deer hunt on 3 sides of my property (NO fences) We just DONT shoot every deer we see! If you have enough money, you can "buy" ANY size buck you want!!! Its a KNOWN fact! I hate that OUR sport has people that "profit" from this!!!I am 100% for hunting and like I said I have deer hunted 23 yrs and hope that "publicity" like this doesnt "KILL" our sport and heritage of hunting! That video is VERY upsetting for sure!

[whisker_chaser]

I wrote the company mentioned earlier in this thread regarding this situation. Here is what I got back from them. Let me know what you think. I thought that it sounded like a bunch of dodging the issue.

Ben,
Thank you for contacting me on this. As I told the other person I was in contact with, I was on limited connectivity when I responded to him and wasn’t sure he would get the e-mail I sent him. Fortunately, we go it resolved.
It has NOTHING to do with apathy. We took this very seriously!!! We do not just sit around and hope things just “go away”. We have been in business since 1958 and we WILL NOT let anything like this scar our reputation.
Those folks that “think” they know what they are talking about in regards to this situation are not completely educated on the findings and results of these accusations. I know that once they have full knowledge of the accounts of this whole farce they will see things differently.
I am sorry you were misled throughout the entire ordeal. I can assure you that we took the proper actions to insure the integrity of the accusations.
Thank you again for your concern for our company.

I have informed my president of your e-mail and he wanted me to include this letter to you.

Dear Ben,
I understand how you could feel the way you do. But there is the "rest of the story".
Please go to his website/forum and read his (and his wife Chris's Open Letters).
The link is http://jimmyhouston.com/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=7a978fda3af3ecafbca54243e50b21 57&board=1.0 (BLOCKED::http://jimmyhouston.com/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=7a978fda3af3ecafbca54243e50b21 57&board=1.0)
I want you to know that I have known Jimmy and his family for over 25 years. Our chairman Joe Hall has known him for almost 35 years. Not only that, but we know tons of industry folks that know him as well. This is a small industry and we all know who the 'Boy Scouts' are.
First of all, Jimmy would have never knowingly done anything illegal or unethical - IT AIN'T IN HIM!
Secondly, Jimmy truly loves the outdoors and the outdoors industry. He is one of the "good guys" that you have a hard time finding these days. For someone that's almost 62 years young, he keeps a grueling pace of travel, seminars, bringing sponsors and media to his home, etc. And this year he's fishing the BASS circuit! If he didn't love fishing and hunting, he would just retire and live pretty well.
Thirdly, do you really think that Jimmy would ever jeopardize his family's livelihood over a deer hunt? He loves his family too much for that!
As you will see in his letter, he has tried to call every one of the people criticizing him about this incident. If you want, I will forward your phone number to him. He'll be glad to speak with you. You can also email him through his forum.


Ron Stallings
ron@tticompanies.com
TTI-Blakemore Fishing Group
Pro Staff Manager
Retail Projects Manager, (RN)
Special Accounts
S.N.E.W.T.D. (Stuff No one Else Wants To Do)
TTI -Blakemore Fishing Group-Home of Tru-Turn, Daiichi,X Point, Mr. Crappie & Stand Out Hook Brands
Blakemore-Road Runner Lures, Reel Magic, Rod Floaters
P.O. Box 1177 Wetumpka, AL. 36092
(334)-567-2011 ext. 210 Fax (334)-567-9788
Note: Blood Red is a registered trademark and Bleeding Bait is a registered trademark of TTI Companies.


From: Ben Thomas [mailto:bennyt@grundyec.net]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:44 PM
To: ron@tticompanies.com
Subject: Jimmy Houston


I found the below email on a web site that I frequent. I would hope that your company isnt just looking the other way at this deal. This is a truly disgusting event. You sounded pretty apathetic in this email. Hopefully I am wrong about that. Thanks,

Ben Thomas







Thank you for your interest in our company.


This is very old news and we appreciate your concern.

Thank you,

Ron Stallings
ron@tticompanies.com (ron@tticompanies.com)
TTI-Blakemore Fishing Group
Pro Staff Manager
Retail Projects Manager, (RN)
Special Accounts
S.N.E.W.T.D. (Stuff No one Else Wants To Do)
TTI -Blakemore Fishing Group-Home of Tru-Turn, Daiichi,X Point, Mr. Crappie & Stand Out Hook Brands
Blakemore-Road Runner Lures, Reel Magic, Rod Floaters
P.O. Box 1177 Wetumpka, AL. 36092(334)-567-2011 ext. 210 Fax (334)-567-9788Note: Blood Red is a registered trademark and Bleeding Bait is a registered trademark of TTI Companies.

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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:52 PM
To: Ron@tticompanies.com (Ron@tticompanies.com)
Subject: Jimmy Houston

Please see the attached link.http://www.real-hunters.com/full.swf (http://www.real-hunters.com/full.swf)
Is this a sportsman?
Is this what you want to represent your company?




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[Flamekeeper]

Canned hunts are for sissys that are afraid they might get their feet muddy or find a tick. It is a shame that these things are even allowed in the first place. It is the same as going to a place where you have to pay to fish(PL)!!!!Some folks just have to much money and are afraid to face an animal or fish in it's own turf.

You know I don't reply to very many threads,Being a Preacher I must watch,and keep most of my oppions to myself,and give thanks for all that I have.and what I can share. I grew up fishing beside my dad at 3yrs of age,In canoes,flatbottom boats,houseboats ,trihulls,you name it , we was in it.We Fished Lakes,Rivers,Streams,Creeks,ponds,watersheds, and Still Do!.if it held water and it had fish my father would take us.After all we could eat.I learned respect others in the process, watching the people that fished from the banks or along side of us.

But this one thing I have to speak up about,I know that what they did was way wrong and non-sportsman-like and I think if they cannot go out and scout around and track down a nice buck for the hunt ,they should stay HOME!!!,IMHO!!!

But I have to say WHOA!!! TO THE BOLD PART in the statement you made..,
These guys can drug them deers but you cannot drug a lake and for sure the fish do swim freely.AND even though they do stock these lakes, don't mean you can catch them. I go to some of these 1-8 acre lakes and fish with these people and Most People that do go to paylakes are well below poverty families and very good freinds, that cannot afford 150-200, for gas,food,and all other luxury expence's that some PEOPLE DO ECT,they don't own Brick homes a boat,new car or truck,they rent apt's/drive old rust buckets and go mostly for food for the family after spending 10-20 they could hardly afford to in the first place and pray for some fish to take home.

I talk to these families while I'm there and I can see the hard lives they live without them saying a word, and most know me as preacher at these places as I talk with them.minister to them if need be.
These inner city / way back in the country famlies/kids are poor and they glow with excitement when they catch a small fish and sometimes cry because they do not..They may never get to a river or a Big lake, moreover get to fish out of a boat that has a SONOR / GRAPH TO TELL YOU WHERE THE FISH IS , So you can drop a hook right in front of his nose..:ooooh:how do you catch them fish without the help of Man made gadgets that bring them to you?.

These people have to hunt for fish and it sure ain't fishing in a bucket where you can see the fish, I've spent days, DAYS, waiting for one fish to bite,Of course I fish for big fish most of the time while I'm there,gives me more time to talk to the people making new freinds.

Said all that to say this.
We all need to give thanks for what we have and what we receice, Because.ALL Things come from above,,Kenny

[Cattoo]

Imagine all the wounded and crippled deer that rock and knife hunting would cause. IMHO one of the things about hunting is making a quick humane kill, not to prolong the suffering as long as possible. For what its worth, I hunt from the ground, stalking and from a tree stand. Ive killed deer every way and have been successful with bow, muzzle loader and rifle. As a hunter I will use whatever tools available to me to get the deer Im after.

I wonder if you follow your ideals when fishing? Its not very "sporting" to use a fancy rod and reel, not to mention a fancy store bought hook. Worst of all is "baiting" them. If you want to be a "sporting" fisherman maybe you should use bone hooks, natural line and cut your own rod, you know give the fish a chance. Perhaps you should wait with a rock or home made wooden spear until the fish swims to you. Maybe noodling is the only sporting method of fishing? You do want to be a "sportsman" dont you?

i never have claimed to be a sportsman. thats a superficial made up b.s. term to make people feel better about themselves and what they are doing. i AM a fisherman. i fish. it still cracks me up how hunters try and be so noble yet they will wound a deer and brag to their buddies how it flopped around or tried to run off and all the exciting details of tracking it. again, i have no problem with hunting, i benefit from it, but when i see all the bleeding hearts so concerned of how these deer were treated, it's just too much. i have hunted and and been around hunters my whole life and the vast majority of the hunters i know hunt for one reason....to kill something and brag about it.

[Cattoo]

You know I don't reply to very many threads,Being a Preacher I must watch,and keep most of my oppions to myself,and give thanks for all that I have.and what I can share. I grew up fishing beside my dad at 3yrs of age,In canoes,flatbottom boats,houseboats ,trihulls,you name it , we was in it.We Fished Lakes,Rivers,Streams,Creeks,ponds,watersheds, and Still Do!.if it held water and it had fish my father would take us.After all we could eat.I learned respect others in the process, watching the people that fished from the banks or along side of us.

But this one thing I have to speak up about,I know that what they did was way wrong and non-sportsman-like and I think if they cannot go out and scout around and track down a nice buck for the hunt ,they should stay HOME!!!,IMHO!!!

But I have to say WHOA!!! TO THE BOLD PART in the statement you made..,
These guys can drug them deers but you cannot drug a lake and for sure the fish do swim freely.AND even though they do stock these lakes, don't mean you can catch them. I go to some of these 1-8 acre lakes and fish with these people and Most People that do go to paylakes are well below poverty families and very good freinds, that cannot afford 150-200, for gas,food,and all other luxury expence's that some PEOPLE DO ECT,they don't own Brick homes a boat,new car or truck,they rent apt's/drive old rust buckets and go mostly for food for the family after spending 10-20 they could hardly afford to in the first place and pray for some fish to take home.

I talk to these families while I'm there and I can see the hard lives they live without them saying a word, and most know me as preacher at these places as I talk with them.minister to them if need be.
These inner city / way back in the country famlies/kids are poor and they glow with excitement when they catch a small fish and sometimes cry because they do not..They may never get to a river or a Big lake, moreover get to fish out of a boat that has a SONOR / GRAPH TO TELL YOU WHERE THE FISH IS , So you can drop a hook right in front of his nose..:ooooh:how do you catch them fish without the help of Man made gadgets that bring them to you?.

These people have to hunt for fish and it sure ain't fishing in a bucket where you can see the fish, I've spent days, DAYS, waiting for one fish to bite,Of course I fish for big fish most of the time while I'm there,gives me more time to talk to the people making new freinds.

Said all that to say this.
We all need to give thanks for what we have and what we receice, Because.ALL Things come from above,,Kenny

i hate paylakes. alot of the big fish that are in these lakes come from illegal netting of our rivers. as far as all these poor people not being able to catch fish well that is just crazy. ky. has more miles of stream, rivers, creeks and lakes than any other state other than alaska! more shoreline than florida! now if these folks can't find a place to catch fish where they do not have to pay to fish than maybe they need to be trying other means of putting food on the table.

[223reload]

I dont usually believe these type of things cause theres allways somebody ready to stick a knife in a celebs back. what really gripes me is watching a hunting show where the shooter is using ,say a 300 mag to shoot a itty bitty whitetail . Then makes a lung shot an it runs off .I shoot for the heart .I dont like to chase after a shot animal I know that when I pull the trigger that the animal is down and thats the way it should be.

[Flamekeeper]

i hate paylakes. alot of the big fish that are in these lakes come from illegal netting of our rivers. as far as all these poor people not being able to catch fish well that is just crazy. ky. has more miles of stream, rivers, creeks and lakes than any other state other than alaska! more shoreline than florida! now if these folks can't find a place to catch fish where they do not have to pay to fish than maybe they need to be trying other means of putting food on the table.



You have a God given right to make your own choice.Thats why some will go up and the others will go down.

I've seen 1 paylake stock Big fish in 30+yrs of fishing, of course I dont see them all. Sure some do but you cannot hold all responsable for one .

Nobody said they cannot catch fish ,If they where able to fish beside you they might just catch more fish than yourself, because they are fisherman just like you, in a little less off state of living. I've wittnessed it and have learned a few things in the process.If they had the resources to go to these rivers and lakes I'm sure they would. OH! OH! I forgot you have all the $$$ you need, you don't need nothing,you have clean clothes to put on your back everyday and a table to set down to and a bed,, So what makes you better than these?.$$$$$ something that these people havn't much of.

Its not a good thing to talk about the poor of this world, because that is who we are to help.So if I was you I would be thankfull that you have been blessed with what you have, because the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, all things come from the Father above, blessings and corrections.


I could go on and on about this ,But I say, count your blessings ,name them one by one. count your many blessings see what God hath done!!.

Lets take a pole!!!>HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND WHEN YOU GO FISHING???

If you said 20 or over you Pay alot more than these poor people do to catch fish and you do not catch fish everytime out thats for sure.

[kat in the hat]

Going to a PL indicates to me that someone who fishes there has money to burn, and doesn't mind the illegal and/or unethical practices behind how the fish are obtained. When I go fishing, I spend anywhere between $20-$100 depending on where I go, and for how long. I practically never come home empty handed unless I give my fish away to someone lesser fortunant than I am, or just don't feel like keeping any. That being said, I could go fishing every day of the week practically free. There are lakes within walking distance, or a very short drive. I can think of at least a dozen lakes within 10 miles or less that are free to fish in. I think PLs take advantage of anglers, and takes advantage of natural resources when wild fish are caught, and placed into lakes for people to pay to catch them. That is my opinion. I'm glad Mo. doesn't seem to have the PL problem yet. MDC makes sure everybody has free fishing within a short distance from them even in the big cities. Trout, carp, catfish. Whatever you are after, they make it real convenient, and FREE. That is a blessing that I count every day!

[Ace]

Those people are not hunters just shooters and not good one at that they should be fined along with the operator's.

[shovelheadfanatic1]

that makes me sick thanks for the video i will never watch him again

[ozzy]

I ask that you all take 30 sec of your time to sign this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/020206/petition.html

I did and was number 1900

[BeastReleaser]

this is sick and evil. these are the people that ruin nature and the world for $.

[Big Cat Hunter]

This is truly pathetic. A man like Jimmy Houston can't say he is a sportsman!!:angry: This makes you wonder about the rest of the garbage we watch on TV. Is it also like this? These kinds of people are people with small minds and big pocketbooks. They can't be real men and hunt an animal on it own terms because they are not smart enough. Idiots like this give us (hunters) all a bad name in the eyes of the public. You better believe after watching this I will never watch ol'Jimmy boy on TV again. Nor will I buy any of his products!!!!:angry::angry::angry:

[jpn]

After watching this video I look on all the hunting shows for little mess ups.
I know if one is doing it then others are too. I hate it for the youth today that see stuff that these actors do and they think it is ok. Evidently they didn't grow up like we did, borrowing a gun, camo, stands, and etc. for our first hunt. Whether it was your pops or your brothers i know more than i had to do that. I'll take full responsability if my son ever does something that stupid and unethical. So lets just try to bring em up right and teach them just because you have plenty of money, hunting is just that, HUNTING. If were that easy they would call it killing or catching. Lets teach em how to hunt and how to fish. Thats my $2 worth

[Flamekeeper]

[QUOTE=kat in the hat;732388]Going to a PL indicates to me that someone who fishes there has money to burn, and doesn't mind the illegal and/or unethical practices behind how the fish are obtained.

I don't have money to burn:crazy:But I'll spend 10 bucks to set on a peaceful bank with no boats,and talk to friends and try to catch fish while I'm there. Heck I even get to preach to the owners sometimes,Praise God. They don't do nothing wrong.

And as for where these fish come from :crazy:,The lakes I'm talking about get there fish straight from the farm down in Mississippi and Georgia where they raise fish by the thousands to sell to to these lakes and other money makers, ,Kroger / Walmart / ETC...:ooooh: Are we going to BAN Walmart for selling farm raised catfish????>I'll get some Pics of these catfish farm lakes,from the hauler and you will see hundreds of cats swimming the surface feeding like goldfish.:smile2:

What about the restaurant's that buy and sell these fish?? That You Eat..You see some people sure ain't doing anything Illegal,and its wrong to accuse them.IMO.

[ozzy]

After watching this video I look on all the hunting shows for little mess ups.
I know if one is doing it then others are too. I hate it for the youth today that see stuff that these actors do and they think it is ok. Evidently they didn't grow up like we did, borrowing a gun, camo, stands, and etc. for our first hunt. Whether it was your pops or your brothers i know more than i had to do that. I'll take full responsability if my son ever does something that stupid and unethical. So lets just try to bring em up right and teach them just because you have plenty of money, hunting is just that, HUNTING. If were that easy they would call it killing or catching. Lets teach em how to hunt and how to fish. Thats my $2 worth

Thanks,I would have never have thought of these people as being ACTORS. I now have a different perspective about outdoor TV/CABLE programming. I doubt that TED NUGENT is a fake, after going after Gloria Alred.

[flathead willie]

That crap really makes me SICK!!!! I will never watch Jimmy Houston on TV again!! or buy anything he endorses!! that is really, really, SICK!!!

That is some sick crap there. Jimmy Houston has just become a non-person in my book. I'll NEVER spend another penny on anything he endorses. I am also going to his web site to tell him, and his sponsors, what I think of that kind of behavior.

[Ace]

That is disgusting these are not hunters.

[flathead willie]

I did and was number 1900

I was #1903 on the petition, however, as soon as I saw the video I went to Jimmy's web site and gave him a piece of my mind. Then I went to the sponsors sites and did the same thing. I hope Jimmy spends the rest of his life scrubbing scum of the bottoms of other peoples boats.

[catfishjohn]

That is disgusting these are not hunters.


I agree 100%!!!!!!!!! :angry: