7mm Or 30.06 rem.

[Cherokee]

Which one would is the best ? 7mm or 30.06 rem.

[spoonfish]

Either one will work fine for deer hunting. The 7 mag. shoots flater on longer range shots but I personally prefer the 06 as it has a little less kick.

[1sporticus]

Ya 06 is my prefered weapon of choice. Later Andy

[pk_powell]

My husband purchased for me years ago before he got hurt and we went hunting together a Winchester 7mm mag.Thanks to it I personally downed a Bison up in South Dakota and I have it on my wall.We were hunting the same location where they filmed "Dances with Wolves" and our guide was not only startled but very pleased because I took aim and put the bullet right next to his ear.The Bull instantly dropped and I was hooked on hunting.However I love my husband too much to go without him so until we get a final word on this whole mess in our lives our guns are all locked up!:too_sad:

[badkarma]

3006 is the only way to go,because it kicks less,cost less and will drop that bison or most anything else in it's tracks too.

[RiverratSC]

Both will work but I prefer the 30-06 springfield.

[CatfishHateMe]

im an indiana boy, shotguns only so i wouldnt kno. i dont see why youd need a rifle anyway unless you are somewhere were theres alot of open space. cuz theres no reason youd need to shoot 300+ yards here, its just not even safe for people living around you.

[bigcatmaniac]

I have personally shot both calibers and yes the 7mm does shoot flatter but the 3006 has less recoil. Both calibers will kill a deer or anything else that you want to shoot, i have chose to go with the 3006 myself. Another thing i like to think about is "what do the armed forces snipers use, .308 or 3006." that is just something that i like to keep in mind when i try to choose a caliber.

[bigredsbbq]

30 06 ammo is very cheap and the most readily available

[ka_c4_boom]

i prefer the 7mm i had a savage with drop out clip synthetic stock with limb saver recoil pad that i recently sold i puchased it for $300. used it one season but needed the money so it had to go , but when i buy my next riffle it will be the same calibur . i like the knock down power and the range , it will reach from ridge top to ridge top its not unheard of to get in that 500 yard shot and proper shot placement one shot one kill .

[ka_c4_boom]

the 30.06 is good too tho

[Mark R.]

Both are very good, my preference is a 280 Remington. That round is a 30-06 necked down to 7mm, pleasent to shoot and flat shooting.
Mark

[Blue Duck]

Pretty hard to beat either one. I have both. If I were going to buy one. Id take which ever I could get the best deal on. The 7mag has the edge if you are doing lots of longer range shooting but at most normal hunting ranges, dead is dead.

[samh]

I've hunter with the 06 for 40 years, its a great caliber and very versatile, the 7mm mag is also a great round, but some of the 7mm rifles I've had were a little picky about what you fed them, more so than most 06's. That said, if deer was the largest game I was going to hunt I wouldn't go with either, the older I get and the more I shoot, the less I like get'n kicked. I've shot several 7mm-08 lately and love the gun, a lot less kick and not that much less performance than a 7mm mag, 270 and 280 are time tested ones too, and the lastly, my next new deer rifle will be a 260, I've shot a couple this year and after looking at the ballistics, I'm in love, short action, flat shooting, 120 or 140 gr bullet and kicks about like a 243, I'm lust'n for one. All that said you can't go wrong with either a 7mm mag or a 30/06, get what you want, if everyone liked the same things they'd only make vanilla ice cream.

[flathead willie]

I think the 30-06 is all you need for any North American game. The bullets are much cheaper and can be found anywhere. Sighted correctly it will shoot dead on from 0 to 350 yards so a flatter trajectory isn't needed unless you are planning shots out to 500 yards. Shots over 250 yards are usually pretty difficult unless you practice a lot, which most hunters don't do, and require very good optics, which are very expensive. If you shoot 1000 meter matches, hunt mountain goats or prairie game at very long ranges, the 7MM is the way to go. For the average deer hunter, you can't beat the 30-06. Factory ammo for 30-06 come in every weight from 55 grain sabot varmint loads to 220 grain moose/bear loads. For practice, you can get 1,000 rounds of military surplus 06 ammo very cheap. The 30-06 has been doing a great job for 100 years.

[derbycitycatman]

You cant go wrong with either one. I chose the '06 because of the availibility and price of ammo, but if your reloading it doesnt matter. I say just pick the one that feels best in your hands or you can get the best deal on.

[crazy]

There both good guns. Personaly I hunt with either my 280 or 7mm mag. Recoil on the 7mm are not as bad as other's make it sound. I have shot 06's that kick more. As far as the cost of ownership I don't know about the rest of you but ammo is the cheapest part of hunting for me. Although like said before my next gun is probably going to be a 260. It don't take much to dump a deer over.

[LiquidSteel]

Either one will work fine for deer hunting. The 7 mag. shoots flater on longer range shots but I personally prefer the 06 as it has a little less kick.

I couldnt begin to agree more.... Every 06 Ive ever shot has just about put me flat on my back. Ive always been good, or lucky, with a 7 mag myself.

Kenny

[savage308]

For my local deer hunting I prefer my 308 Savage. Deadly accurate. I do own a Rem 7mm Mag and I really like it also. In my opinion the kick isn't too bad. I really like the knock down power when hunting Nilgai and elk. I have shot a few deer and several hogs with it and they pretty much always fall where they are. It definatley puts a hole in em. JMO

[STC T&F]

but I have different options. Am going to buy a new(to me) rifle. Two choice as my friend is cleaning out his dad's guns. Both remington.

.270 or .30-06?

Thanks,

MJO

[jim]

Herbert,we all may have taken a leap of faith here by surmising that by 7mm you mean 7mm Mag.There are plenty of good 7mms out there some even more powerful than the 7mm Rem Mag.Take a good look at the rifle you are considering as to barrel lenght,the mags generally need a little more lenght to get all their advantage.I have shot just about everything thing except a Polar bear and Moose with a 300 Weatherby and a 7mm Weatherby.Never shot a bison so PK I am impressed particularly if a little snippet of a girl like you picked it up and put it on your wall.!!!!!:big_smile: :ooooh:The 06 has done everything there is to do and then some.I would offer this advice,You know how we talk about boats and motors and someone will say I bought a new boat with a 50 hp motor and in the next sentence say I wish I would have gotton the 75hp.Same principle here .If you are going to be a one gun guy the get the 7mm.The extra horsepower might come in handy one day and you will have it.If you are going to eventually have a number of guns:roll_eyes: :tounge_out: like the rest of us one gun guys LOL then get the 06.It will do everything you want and you can always get a 7mm if the need arises. :big_smile: :lol: Currently I have 8 major rifles and shoot one of them 98% of the time.:smile2:

[777]

I own both the remington 30-06 and a remington 7 mm magnum and prefer the 7 mag over the 06 by far. IMO there is no comparison.

[Paraguayguy]

I remember reading about a great elephant hunter in Africa. His last name was Bell. He shot elephants for their ivory, literally killed thousands of the great beasts. While his companions were using 416 rigbys, 500 nitro express, and even 600 nitro express double barrel rifles, Mr. Bell out shot them all with a bolt action 7 mm mauser shooting the elephants in the brain with solid bullets. After killing thousands, he finally got himself killed by a wounded elephant. Moral of the story if you shoot straight you don't need a cannon and make double sure you can outrun your gunbearer:lol: .

I shoot a Thompson Center Encore. I have lots of barrels. I sold the 7 MM Mag because of the recoil and noise. My favorite caliber is a 300 whisper. Its basically a 223 rem shell that has been necked up to take a 308 caliber bullet. Little noise, tack driver, zero recoil, shoot deer in the heart or head and they fall dead in their tracks out to 200 yards. Can be loaded with as little as 7.5 grains of powder pushing a 240 grain bullet makes it as quiet as a 22 short. Lots of fun to plink with. Round was developed for the US Military for their snipers.

[peewee williams]

I think the 30-06 is all you need for any North American game. The bullets are much cheaper and can be found anywhere. Sighted correctly it will shoot dead on from 0 to 350 yards so a flatter trajectory isn't needed unless you are planning shots out to 500 yards. Shots over 250 yards are usually pretty difficult unless you practice a lot, which most hunters don't do, and require very good optics, which are very expensive. If you shoot 1000 meter matches, hunt mountain goats or prairie game at very long ranges, the 7MM is the way to go. For the average deer hunter, you can't beat the 30-06. Factory ammo for 30-06 come in every weight from 55 grain sabot varmint loads to 220 grain moose/bear loads. For practice, you can get 1,000 rounds of military surplus 06 ammo very cheap. The 30-06 has been doing a great job for 100 years.I agree.I owned,shot and reloaded both at the same time for years.Both the 30-06 and 30-30 rifle shells are sold wherever shells are sold.The 30-06 has the widest range of commercially available factory loads that I know of.Also the widest range of reloading components that I know of.To the best of my knowledge,the 7mm Mauser and 303 British rounds killed more Elephants,and other dangerous game than all others put together on both the African and Asian continents.Why?Because that is what the people had.Many of the Ivory and other commercial hunters used them.The 30-06 is more powerful and has a wider range of loads than both.My 7mm Rem Mag.Winchester Classic Sporter was a thing of beauty and a awesome thing to fire.It will do everything that it should and more.You are the limit,not the gun.Now as for my 30-06.Sargent York would be proud.A 1917 Pattern Enfield (#3) 30-06 put together out of new un issued parts.Collectible?No way.A fine sturdy utility rifle that you can trust your life too.Thats it!It was designed to be and is still a fine weapon when you are out of ammo and your bayonet is gone.That means that it is one fine rifle to take anywhere and stand up to the rigors of the world.I do wish that I had a Bayonet for it.The best rifle of all is the one that makes you happy.peewee-williams

[peewee williams]

but I have different options. Am going to buy a new(to me) rifle. Two choice as my friend is cleaning out his dad's guns. Both remington.

.270 or .30-06?

Thanks,

MJO If at all possable.Buy shells for both.Go shoot both.The one that you do best with is the one for you.If you cain;t do this.Handle both.Which comes up as close to the target you are looking at when you shoulder the rifle?You have to live with your choice.Good luck.peewee-williams

[223reload]

im with peewee get the one thet you can shoot best and you will only get better with it I personally shoot a 243 because almost no recoil and you dont need magnum power to shoot deer

[Cherokee]

Ok i done it i went and bought the remington 710 30-06. they where on sell for $299.87. Thank you all for you in put on the guns since i live and ky i do'nt think ill be shooting over 300 yards. i bought 150gr. shells also. Oh yea it came with a bushnell 3x9 scope.. Good Price ?

[porboy]

You done good. The bullet weight is just right and I think that the 06 is the
best choice.
Bill

[223reload]

glad you made an informed decision bro although i have heard the 710s are junk i think that is coming from those who like the bells and whistels on the higher end rifels i got an old mod 788 rem and every body says thier junk too but mine is still going strong shootin dime size groups wth my handloads so go figure

[Cherokee]

HEre us the gun

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_710.asp

[223reload]

looks like a fine shooter to me

[flathead willie]

You won't be disappointed. That's all the rifle the average hunter needs. Besides, the limiting factor in performance is usually the rifleman, not the rifle!

[Cherokee]

Next year i want to upgrade the scope want a bigger one.

[223reload]

the 3x9 should fill your needs perfectly i use one and i also have a 6x24 but thats on my 223 varmint rifel you dont really need more than around 6x for most hunting applications

[derbycitycatman]

Looks like it'll put down deer to me. Congrats on the new rifle.

[Pastor E]

Them ole 30-30 s and ought:smile2: 6s have been around forever

[catfishbills]

Both are GREAT calibers, shot placement and bullet selection is key! I have a Steyr 30-06 thats a TACK driver and with handloaded 165 boattail bullets is very flat shooting!Also the 7mm class of calibers have probably the most ballistic superior bullets available(130gr,140gr,150gr,160gr,165br,175gr) If recoil is a problem look at the 7mm-08 w/140gr bullets. If recoil isnt a issue 7mm w.s.m or 7mm rem mag or 30-06 w/qaulity ammo. Proper sight-in is also IMPORTANT. If you want the most range out of your rifle sight it in aprox.2 1/2 to 3 inches high at 100yds. I use this method and have made 0ne-shot kills from 5ft to 378 yds.Alot of people think that if you woods hunt and sight your rifle in that high at 100yds youll miss.......try it...I like my rifles ready for ANYrange that I am comfortable with. I also shoot year round(this is important) dont ever over extend Your capibilities! Take the time and look whats available out there!Best of luck! :smile2:

[Cherokee]

I set in my scope on my 30.06 tuesday shot a box of shells threw it i had to try it out real good you know. Well it didnt seem to do any thing to my should. well since wensday am should has been killing me from shooting it :crazy:

[JAYNC]

I have a remington 700 30-06 synthetic stock bolt action and to me it is all the rifle I will ever need for north america. I have a 3x9x50 scope on it and I sighted mine in at 0 at 200yds, that is what a lot of ballistics charts go by anyways. I use 180 grain winchester silver tips and can consistently hit a 2" group at 200yds. I imagine if I wanted to spend the money on bullets I could get it a little tighter. Trust me, you hit a deer with a 180 grain right on your mark or a little off, its going down. Its nice if you can shoot 500yds but, I will never have an open field in my area that is that long, so thats why this rifle fits me so well.

[jlingle]

Herbert.... I hope you love your gun. I've heard that those new 710 models are ugly ducklings but fantastic shooters. That's about all I need to hear about a gun, is how well it shoots. I personally couldn't care less about looks, but to each his own. Your '06 will kill deer graveyard dead & that's kinda the point, I think. I shoot a 7 mm & people think I'm some sort of psycho..... "why do you need that much gun!?" umm..... 'cause I"m trying to KILL what I shoot at. Your '06 will get it done.

Shoulder hurts huh? I wish I had found this thread a little sooner. I own both calibers, and my '06 stays in the safe like a little queen while my 7mm rem mag does all the hunting. I shoot 150 gr. shells from the 3006 and I shoot 139 gr. hornady btsp bullets from the 7 Mag. The 7 kicks considerably LESS than the 06. No comparison. It will depend on the rifle itself, which caliber will kick less. Sorry. If you shoot very heavy weighted bullets out of the 7, it'll kick harder for sure.... but my gun luckily loves the smaller bullets. My '06 doesn't like anything, so I shoot the cheapy 150 gr. coreloks. If I shoot comparable bullets from each gun, then my 7 kicks less than my '06. It's not always an open & shut thing.

The fella who suggested the .280 hit the nail on the head. It has less recoil than either the 7mm rem mag or the '06, and it can compare very nicely to a 7 Mag in ballistics. If you shoot a 150 gr. bullet from a 7mm, and a 140 gr. bullet from a .280....... you're basically getting identical ballitics & both will anchor deer in their tracks.

Anyway, blah blah blah. We've all thrown out what we know about guns & had a nice time doing it. You made a really good informed decision. I really hope your new rifle gives you years of good service and blasts the fool out of every deer you point it at.

Jerrod

[Mark R.]

I mentioned the 280 because it is easy to get ammo for - I shoot a 7X64 Styer, used to be I had to form my own cases from the parent 30.06 case.
Even though it is now available I have never shot a factory round thru it.

The bullets make the difference, I have a elk on the wall (6x7)that I shot with the 7x64 with 160 Barnes bullets, I put either 3 or 4 rounds (been so long I forgot) in him at a considerable distance and didn't even know I hit him. I went and tracked him down and found all the rounds went through him just like FMJ , later that season using the same rounds I had a deer run quite a ways even though I placed the shot right, burned the rest of them up on paper.

My friends and my self pretty much use ballistic tips these days but I wouldn't be afraid to use either Silvertips or Core-Lock factory rounds on
deer or elk.

The Remington should be a good shooter- never had one that didn't.

BTW that old 788 Rem. has a very good lock up system - I had one in 308 and regret selling it!

[Cherokee]

Am using 150 gr Express Core-Lock Remington Tks everyone for there advise.

[derbycitycatman]

When I first got my 06 I didnt think it kicked much, now I couldnt shoot a box at all through it until I got one of those slip on recoil reducers. It works great and well worth the 10 bucks for not having a sore shoulder or not getting the flinches. Had someone tell me they are not good because they might discolor the stock but Im not worried about that on a savage 110.

[Paraguayguy]

Heck,I'm such a big wussie that I put a Limb Saver slip on recoil pad on my Horton Cross Bow. That Cross Bow kicks like a mule. Not now!