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KansasKatter
08-31-2006, 01:48 PM
OK guys, cut me a little slack here as I have never fished, and hardly even crossed the Kansas River, but I notice some people calling it the Kaw. What is that all about? Is it just a part of it that is referred to the Kaw, or the whole thing? Am I just retarded, and don't know my facts as well as I should? Or maybe a little of both?:confused2:



BIG-G
08-31-2006, 02:04 PM
OK! You're stupid! LOL! I don't know either and never thought of askin. Thanx for sparein me! LOL!
dafin
08-31-2006, 02:38 PM
The kansas river has been called both names as long as I have been around . I don't know why the two names for it.
KansasKatter
08-31-2006, 02:44 PM
George,

One of the many things I am known for is speaking up, speaking my mind, and the BEST of all........chewing on my foot more than most people care to! LOL Has your son made it to Wichita yet?

Dale, so as long as it is the same river, I am OK, I just was trying to get clear for sure what they were talking about. I am sure somebody out here will clear it up for us.
BIG-G
08-31-2006, 02:50 PM
His orders have him and his family leavin LakenHeath in January. Thanx for rememberin! Try that shoe with a little A-1 sauce. It works for me. LOL!
AwShucks
08-31-2006, 03:09 PM
Bet this really confuses you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_River
TDawgNOk
08-31-2006, 03:26 PM
Bet this really confuses you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_River


Clear as mud, clear as mud
peewee williams
08-31-2006, 03:45 PM
It may be like Lake Marion in South Carolina.They damed up the Santee River.The locals called the lake Santee or Santee Lake.I have no idea what all of the immigrants now call it.Maybe Kansas was like South Carolina at the time.I once heard this spoken during a discussion by a group of adults."You cain;t name no big lake after no injuns".Being that Kaw is a Indian name?peewee-williams
dcaruthers
08-31-2006, 04:06 PM
It may be like Lake Marion in South Carolina.They damed up the Santee River.The locals called the lake Santee or Santee Lake.I have no idea what all of the immigrants now call it.Maybe Kansas was like South Carolina at the time.I once heard this spoken during a discussion by a group of adults."You cain;t name no big lake after no injuns".Being that Kaw is a Indian name?peewee-williams

I was told when I fished Santee that Lakes Moutrie and Marion both make up the Santee-Cooper Resevoir. Not sure if this is right, but it is all Santee to me.
warcraft1975
08-31-2006, 04:07 PM
i am pretty sure its because of the kaw indains that used to live there,other than that kaw is just a nick name for the kansas river
GaryF
08-31-2006, 04:15 PM
I vote for Tom's answer. That is how I've always understood it - a nickname related to the Kaw Indians.
LBM
08-31-2006, 04:25 PM
Gary is correct. Check this site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaw
center12
08-31-2006, 04:36 PM
Because Kaw has fewer syllables than Kansas river............too many syllables gives me a headache:wink: .
GaryF
08-31-2006, 04:43 PM
Charlie should probably get the prize on this one.
KansasKatter
08-31-2006, 06:32 PM
AwShucks - you made my head spin with that one!

I assumed it was an Indian thing, but was not clear if it was the whole river, or just a portion of it, or what. I kept hearing people talking about fishing Kaw, and I thought they were fishing the Kaw Lake in Oklahoma.....that is where I was getting cornfused...:embarassed:
center12
08-31-2006, 06:44 PM
I believe the top picture in Awshucks link is just down from where Cedar creek enters the Kaw and the bottom picture is of course Bowersock dam(5 block from the house or a 3 minute boat ride).

You all got me worked up enough to get me heading for the river this evening(that and Brad's pic), haven't been on the river in almost 2 months. Going to drown some perch and see what the river channels think of beef blood...........I'm also going to sip a couple of cold ones and hope to find a baseball game on the radio, river fishing at it's finest!!

Jeff, thanks for the rep, I try.........really I do:big_smile:
brad kilpatrick
08-31-2006, 11:35 PM
Here You go, This should explain.

http://www.kclibrary.org/localhistory/media.cfm?mediaID=99604

Clear as mud eigh!!!
center12
09-01-2006, 01:44 AM
Caught a couple 4 pound fish, an 8 pound carp and an 11 pound channel tonight.........all on blood, not a single run on my perch. The 11 lb'er looked like he had just come off the nest, head was huge, body and fins all beat up, and was pretty skinny. If the body would have matched the head that fish would had went around 16-17 pounds. No baseball, but did get to savior a few cold ones............also got checked by a game warden at the ramp, 2nd time ever on the Kaw.
Catfish Fever
09-01-2006, 03:36 AM
Lawrence, thanks for the link, that's pretty interesting stuff.
Catfish Fever
09-01-2006, 03:41 AM
Brad, thanks, another good source to save. Been here 31 years and learned more about the river tonight than ever.
KansasKatter
09-01-2006, 10:31 AM
Charlie, How can you live that close to the friggen river and not be there EVERY night!!??

All the fish I have been catching the past two weeks look just like you described. They all look like they are starving to death, all scraped up, look like they have been through a war recently. I wonder what is going on, they have to be well off the next, don't they?:confused2:

I just wish they would bite more like they are starving!! Heading to Toronto this evening, did not sleep a wink last night!:cool2: Probably get there and fall asleep after getting camp set up and not even be able to fish!:crazy:
center12
09-01-2006, 11:15 AM
Shift work for one, when I was on straight days I was hitting it 3-5 times a week. I do have 14 days off every month, but after honey do's and all I just don't get out on it as much. Probably the biggeast reason though is the health advisory on the fish in this section of the river, if it was just me I'd eat it but I'm not going to feed it to my kid. I know lots of people that eat them, but I can go to Clinton or Perry and harvest "safe" fish. With my limited fishing opportunities and my love of fried fish I choose to fish the lakes more.

When I ran the fish farm we would collect egg's for about a month before the production slowed down. After they slowed down quite a bit we would pull the spawning structure(cream cans), but I know there was still spawning activity going on. I can't imagine that they would still be at it this late, the heat this summer such have taken the water way above their prefered spawning tempature.................but I do know that if I'd have caught this fish in July I'd have called Spawner.

Be sure and look at site numbers while your down there, we're probably going to need 2 or 3 sites. Hope you all have a great time!!