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AllenM
06-10-2006, 11:06 PM
I was told that Lake Shasta has a restriction and only permits 4 stroke engines, but I've been unable to find anything to confirm or deny this on the net today. I was also told that 2 other lakes up here have similar restrictions. Can anyone tell me if this is true of Shasta Lake, and what other lakes it applies to please? I may have to start looking for a 4 stroke motor for my boat if this is the case. :crazy:




AwShucks
06-11-2006, 10:04 AM
Can't help you with Shasta, but the rumor I have heard, and cannot confirm, is that is will soon be illegal to use a two stroke on any Corp of Engineer lake. Hope not, as that eleminates a lot of fishing water.

zappaf19
06-11-2006, 10:07 AM
That would make everyone who fishes there buy new motors! Thats a fad I don't want to see. Would all the wave runners be ban then?
Bill

AllenM
06-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Well, "just in case", what is a reasonable price to pay for a new or for a used 15HP 4 stroke outboard?

Fishnhuntforever
06-30-2006, 06:20 PM
Allen there are more and more lakes with these bans in California. Lake shasta is restricted. I have not read this personally but have a family member that fishes tournments there and was talking to me about it. The good news is Black Butte is not a restricted lake and that is the heart of your fishing.

Mutt
06-30-2006, 07:13 PM
Yep Shasta is restricted and a lot of other waters are restricted. That is why it is hard to buy a 2 stroke in cali anymore with the exception of a certian few. One day the whole state will be 4 stroke only. So I would recomend starting to save up and buy a 4 stroke.

AllenM
06-30-2006, 07:27 PM
LOL! That or some new oars, huh?

Well, I talked to my dad and he told me that when he was young and lived in Redding, he used to take a 12 foot boat similar to mine out on the Sacramento river with a 2hp outboard! ROFL!! Told me it could barely move against the current, but he'd run it up river for about a half hour then drift fish his way back down to the ramp. I guess that tells me I aught to be able to take my 9.8hp out there with no difficulty, LOL! Good news at last!

Mutt
06-30-2006, 08:26 PM
Hey Allen I can really help make your boat go better. We can tie it up to the back of my ranger z22 just dont mind the rooster tail though :big_smile:

AllenM
06-30-2006, 08:34 PM
I'll have to pass on that offer, Mutt. I'm not looking for "faster" as much as I'm looking forassurances that I won't be swept down river without enough power to get back to the ramp, LOL!! :confused2:

Deltalover
06-30-2006, 09:46 PM
Sure is hard to get a direct answer on what lakes specificly ban 2 stroke outboards. Lake Tahoe for sure, thats where it started. Also, most of the bay area lakes and Santa Clara have restrictions. What I got from the Gov. pages is it's a lake by lake basis rather then state wide.
http://dbw.ca.gov/TwoStroke/TSFAQ.asp

AllenM
07-01-2006, 02:58 AM
Thanks for the link, even though as you say, it don't say much. I wish they would compile a list of waters that have set specific regs banning older 2 strokes to go along with this page! They don't mention Shasta, but I know they have that restriction, so God only knows what other lakes aren't listed... It would sure suck to haul a boat 150+ miles only to find out it's not permitted on the water you intend to use it on! Not always easy to find out who to call in order to find out before you head out either! :sad2:

catseeman
07-01-2006, 03:33 AM
Being nosy . Who decides to restrict the lakes? What criteria do they use?
How much notificaton do they give? Ihave heard the FEDs are planning to ban 2 cyc's in 2008 or 9 Here in the midwest. I don't now to believe it or not. A boat dealer friend told me.

Mutt
07-01-2006, 10:10 AM
Being nosy . Who decides to restrict the lakes? What criteria do they use?
How much notificaton do they give? Ihave heard the FEDs are planning to ban 2 cyc's in 2008 or 9 Here in the midwest. I don't now to believe it or not. A boat dealer friend told me.
it is comming there will be the day all 2 strokes will be banned. They are talking cataletic converters on lawn mowers here dont be suprised if it happens back that way too. I fly radio control they have been talking about restictions on them too.
Allen call the parks and rec dept for the area you want to fish and find out if they allow 2 strokes or not. It is a lot cheaper then driving all the way to find out you can use it.

ohiohawghunter45067
07-01-2006, 11:40 AM
thats a shame. i currently am a memeber of a handgun site as well, and the guys from there call california a seperate country in the united states. so many stupid laws and regulations.

AllenM
07-01-2006, 01:59 PM
thats a shame. i currently am a memeber of a handgun site as well, and the guys from there call california a seperate country in the united states. so many stupid laws and regulations.

Boy, howdy!! They sure got that right! I've moved out of Cali a few times and for one reason or another wound up having to come back here... When I moved to Las Vegas 2 years ago I thought I was done with Cali once and for all, but it seems I can't escape it's gravity or something! :crazy: At least now I'm living in a nicer part of the state again.

Big Sam
07-03-2006, 09:57 AM
Don't feel bad guy's we have some close to my house that you can only use a TROLLING MOTOR:crazy: No 2or4strokes allowed...big fine.

AllenM
07-04-2006, 01:01 AM
Must be pretty small lakes!

Fishnhuntforever
07-05-2006, 02:03 PM
Don't feel bad guy's we have some close to my house that you can only use a TROLLING MOTOR:crazy: No 2or4strokes allowed...big fine.


We have a few of those as well they are harder to get around but still have great fishing.

AllenM
07-05-2006, 02:48 PM
We have a few of those as well they are harder to get around but still have great fishing.

Which lakes do we have like that? The only thing I'd heard about was the old 2 stroke restrictions at Shasta and a couple others. By the way, how's your buddy's dog doing?

Fishnhuntforever
07-05-2006, 03:17 PM
Which lakes do we have like that? The only thing I'd heard about was the old 2 stroke restrictions at Shasta and a couple others. By the way, how's your buddy's dog doing?

Paradise lake is one of them. I think de sablo is also trolling motor only. Usually any lake that people get there water from is trolling only. You are not allowed to swim in paradise lake and you can't use live bait. His dog is doing just fine I called the next day to see how she was doing. Did you get anymore fishing in over the holiday?

Big Sam
07-06-2006, 10:25 AM
I will tell you though that during the late fall there is a spot I bank fish from the lake that you can't get to in the summer due to bryers that has produced a 15.7lb channel cat and blues over 20lbs:big_smile:

Fishnhuntforever
07-06-2006, 12:31 PM
That is the nice part about them. Alot of people are not willing to get to that far off the beaten path. If you take the time it can be rewarding like you say!