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catoon
01-03-2009, 11:58 PM
i was wondering what yall think about harvesting 1 deer per season and cpr ing the rest.this i mean to say use a high power dart gun with tranqualizer photo yourself and your catch then let the deer go .what yall think about this idea. would this help build the population or hurt it?
Mi11er
01-04-2009, 12:10 AM
I just do not want hunting to turn into some game. Hunting's tradition runs deep with me and a lot of people. I do not hunt to have a pic to hang up it, it is deeper than that. It works for rhinos that are endangered, so rich guys can get their "Big 5". I just don't want it for deer, I think that the trauma would be too much.
iabowhunter
01-04-2009, 12:14 AM
The insurance companies here in Iowa would throw a complete and total hissy fit.
I remember when I first started hunting back in the early 80's most of the license that were issued were buck only. If you got an any sex tag you were sitting on top of the world. With the rut over during shotgun season and very few does shot that ment come spring there would be a bummper crop of bambies. Now we are overpopulated...which is a good thing for those of us who like eating deer. A resident in Iowa can purchase as many antlerless tags as they wish. One county has a quota of 5400 antlerless tags to be purchased.
Snagged2
01-04-2009, 12:28 AM
LOL,,
I think It'd be great,,, Great white hunter taking a pic when deer wakes up and knocks the crap out of him or her... LOL
KSCats
01-04-2009, 12:46 AM
LOL,,
I think It'd be great,,, Great white hunter taking a pic when deer wakes up and knocks the crap out of him or her... LOL
Doesn't have to be with a dart gun.
http://www.sedaliademocrat.com/news/sedalia_13125___article.html/headache_season.html
Grimpuppy
01-04-2009, 01:14 AM
I don't think we want tranquilizers strong enough to put down a #250 deer in the hands of the general public. I seen on one of the hunting shows that a buck will have a hard time making through the winter if he has to breed more than about 7 does during the rut. They said they spend to much energy and can't build it back up enough to survive the winter. Don't know how much truth there is to it. In Kansas you are only allowed one buck anyway, but you can take 4 doe also.
C.P.R. = Cajun Powder Rub.
centexcop
01-04-2009, 03:36 AM
This reminds me of the guy that his the deer and had to call 911. I think it was a prank call, but it really fits here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x05EeeN6pBM
dieselcat
01-04-2009, 11:09 AM
i think that is the stupidest idea i ever herd
john catfish young
01-04-2009, 11:24 AM
When I hunt....I hunt for meat. I never kill any more than what I need. Usually 2 deer per year, sometimes 3. When I fish, I fish for trophies, CPR 99% of all fish. I keep a very good supply of game in the freezer. I simply dont think a deer should be shot if your not going to eat it or know someone who wants it. The whole shoot them with a dart thing....well...Hey thats a cool looking hat you got there!!!!!:wink:
223reload
01-04-2009, 11:39 AM
i think that is the stupidest idea i ever herd
I couldnt agree more,Reps for you.
CuzICan
01-04-2009, 11:57 AM
When I hunt....I hunt for meat. I never kill any more than what I need. Usually 2 deer per year, sometimes 3.
Our family hunts for meat as well not horns. If you don't want to kill it, take a picture, and don't shoot. Simple as that. If he's close enough to kill he's probably close enough to capture on file or film :)
Wabash River Bear
01-04-2009, 12:56 PM
In my home state, Indiana, we are allowed "bonus anterless deer" tags above and beyond our regular buck tags. Depending on the county you live in, in mine I can take 1 buck, + 4 does. This is done for a reason, to control disease, localized population, and prevent starvation. At one time it was so bad they opened certain state parks to draw hunts to weed out the sickly deer and reduce the local population. It works, we have bigger, healthier whitetails now. If it wasnt for this program, we would be overrun with sickly, starving deer. With the lack of natural preditors in this state, we, the hunters, become natures natural selection.
cantstopgrandma
01-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Bad idea. How much stress does it put on that deer to be tranquilized? A lot of them would still die. They would get so messed up from the tranquilizer, or they would wake up dazed and get hit by cars (like that doesn't already happen enough).
Around here we are overrun with deer as it is. We dont need a bunch of people shooting them just to let them go. We can shoot 12 deer per season (bow, muzzleloader, shotgun/rifle), 10 does, and 2 bucks if you buy a "bonus antlered deer" stamp for the second buck. That's 36 per person, per year. This doesn't include the "crop damage" permits the farmers get. If we started letting them go, we'd have sick and starving deer from the overpopulation. Bad idea the way I look at it.
Mi11er
01-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Not only would the stress on the deer be too much, But the public outcry about "hunters" drugging deer would be horrible.
Wabash River Bear
01-04-2009, 02:25 PM
Not only would the stress on the deer be too much, But the public outcry about "hunters" drugging deer would be horrible.Whitetail rehab! :smile2:
Mi11er
01-04-2009, 02:51 PM
Whitetail rehab! :smile2:
Great now that you said that, I bet MTV is shooting the pilot:smile2::smile2: It will be on next fall.
DIESELkat
01-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Very bad idea. Say someone goes out and "shoots" a buck with a dart, takes the Hero of the Day pics, and lets the deer go. Next day you shoot the deer for real and eat the meat that has the tranq. in it. Not a good situation. Or look at it from the other hand. Same deer gets "shot" the first day, they you "shoot" it again with a dart. There is such a thin line with these drugs, too little and it wont knock em out, too much and they die. If a deer gets shot again within a week of being drugged, its more than likely going to die. Obviously you cant eat the meat, so its wasted.
In this age of video games and the "I want it now and it better not hurt anything" mentality, we cannot let this "Hollywood" train of thought seep into our long and storied history of hunting. First it was the deal where you could have a remote controlled gun and live feed camera on a ranch in Texas and shoot a deer from the comfort of your house. COME ON.
If you cant handle the fact that hunting is an outdoor sport that might just involve something dying, maybe you should rethink your choice of recreational activities. Face the facts: your gonna get cold, your gonna get wet, your gonna get dirty, your gonna get blood under your fingernails, something must die.
catoon
01-04-2009, 07:56 PM
thks atleast you didnt call me STUPID lol lmao :crazy::smile2: 223 ill be waiting in hi for ya
Grimpuppy
01-04-2009, 08:42 PM
That's 36 per person, per year.
Holy crap, is there any deer left there? You need more hunters up there if you have bag limits like that and still have overpopulation problem.
kat in the hat
01-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Holy crap, is there any deer left there? You need more hunters up there if you have bag limits like that and still have overpopulation problem.
Does are unlimited in most parts of Missouri. $5 each. It's great!
Anyways catoon...you know it's a bad idea. It would kill alot of the deer anyways..PLUS, it's just not a good idea. Now a paintball....? Nah! :smile2: I'll just take my camera along.
catoon
01-04-2009, 09:30 PM
paint ball i didnt think about that kat in tha hood you rite smart some times..ok yall how about instead of tranqalizers we use pink and purple paint ball. like katinthahat wants then we can tell how many times they been hit
Snagged2
01-04-2009, 11:21 PM
Out here where I Live, you can be arrested for tormenting, badgering,or harrassing the animals,,
We get one deer per year if we're lucky,,,( Lottery/Drawing System) If we get a shot,, it ain't for practice!!:wink:
puddle jumper
01-05-2009, 12:18 AM
Most Deer hunters I know are ethical guys ,,, They eat what they shoot,
The guy thats not, doesent care if its lagal of not he just wants to drop the hammer,,,
and at the rate we are loosing hunters in Ga we are going to need a brush guard on everything you drive if you live 20 miles outside of Atlanta...
Puddle
Your not Stupid, your on to something I think, I could use that tranqualizer gun around the house on the wife from time to time...:crazy:
cantstopgrandma
01-05-2009, 01:47 PM
Holy crap, is there any deer left there? You need more hunters up there if you have bag limits like that and still have overpopulation problem.
To the contrary, you cant tell any have been killed. And again, not everybody hunts bow season, and muzzleloader season. Gun season is the most popular. And not everybody has enough time to kill 36 deer a year either. We have a lot of horn hunters around here, so they usually only kill bucks, or they go all of bow and muzzleloader season trying to kill a big buck, and then only have a couple of weeks of gun season to kill does. With everybody wanting to make money renting out land for hunting, a lot of people cant afford to hunt anymore, and public land gets more crowded. Public land around here usually involves long walks , as you cant use 4 wheelers or trucks, this in turn makes it so much harder to drag a deer out.
Maryland is terrible with keeping healthy populations of animals. They usually let an animal all but disappear, then they make it so you cant harvest any. In the case of deer, they've let them get overpopulated in my opinion. Striped Bass seasons just opened back up around here about 15 years ago, they had let the population get too low, and then closed it. Now the striped bass are getting overpopulated again, and they aren't doing anything about it (we need to be able to keep more than 2 a day IMHO).
katfish ken
01-05-2009, 02:20 PM
In a lot of the country deer are overpopulated any way. The peta people would have a blast with that. I think if we stick with the DNR regs. the deer population will be a lot better off. If a hunter want to shoot less than his limit in an area for conservation reasons that is a whole different story. As for tranqualizers that would stop a big buck long enough for a photo. It would never do for them to be available to the general public. Can you imagine the crime rate increase that would take place??? It just would never do.
massa_jorge
01-06-2009, 08:25 AM
most places i have ever hunted, with the exception of the mountains, need to raise the limit on deer as it is. especially in texas, where the land available to hunt is either expensive or overcrowded with people, there are too many deer. we have big deer in the panhandle, and i don't want to see the size shrink because of overpopulation like further south in the state. i couldn't feed my family on one deer a year anyway. on a different note, i would love to tranqulize the neighborhood dogs when they crap on my lawn. i could hog tie them and drop them off at the pound! they, too, are overpopulating!
lance
01-06-2009, 09:37 AM
3 things come to mind : 1 I hunt for meat . 2 No c no r If I can get a pic cause I don't or can't harvest that animal cool . 3 Tranquillizers ..... Not a good idea . Could be used for crimes rape/theft etc... and of coarse someone might get some jollies off of using them on theirselves .
Angler4life
01-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Haha, at first, I thought the topic of this discussion was a joke, but I guess it is an actual discussion. I don't know about the rest of the U.S., but I Ohio, the deer population is way too high. The Ohio Division of Wildlife has gone to extreme measures to reduce the population. In the Eastern Region of Ohio, we can shoot up to 6 deer per year now with stipulations, and our season doesn't end this year until the end of February. So, with that said, tranquilizing deer around here would be totally out of the question.
cats4uandme
01-10-2009, 06:26 PM
cant eat pictures. i hunt for meat. the racks mean nothing to me when i squeeze the trigger. so i am not for the idea.:wink:
i made 30lbs of summer sausage and 10lbs of slim jims and 30 lbs trail bologna and have couple hundred lbs of venison steaks chops and roasts. i didnt even shoot at a buck.
and deer like everything need harvesting to control desiese due to lack of habitat since we humans took over.:ooooh:
psychomekanik
01-10-2009, 08:31 PM
I 'cpr" deer all the time. It's a selective harvest all the same. But, Instead of taking it off the hook and releasing it like you do with fish. I just let it walk. Knowing I could have killed it. I can't see going into the woods and hunting with a tranquilizer gun. That'd be like drinking non-alchoholic beer. What's the point?? Take a picture.
psychomekanik
01-10-2009, 08:45 PM
i was wondering what yall think about harvesting 1 deer per season and cpr ing the rest.this i mean to say use a high power dart gun with tranqualizer photo yourself and your catch then let the deer go .what yall think about this idea. would this help build the population or hurt it?
But, to awnser your question. I would think it would hurt the population in my area. If everyone around here done that, you'd have to chase them out of your garage to get in your car. Then there would be a really cold winter and the ones that did'nt starve to death, would be diseased and sickly the following year. And years to come. They need thinned out! I can't awnser for all hunters. But, I could take 20 or more deer a year if I shot about anything that walked under me. I hunt for meat and trophies. I fill the freezer early and get very selective until the rut is over. After that I may shoot some more for the freezer. I don't shoot small bucks. I'd rather go all year without shooting one at all instead of shooting little 6 or 8 point bucks. I'll let one of them walk before I do a tender doe..
derbycitycatman
01-11-2009, 03:03 PM
I believe some have already tried this but I cant remember the groups name. They wanted to make it a competition of who could tranq the biggest deer, thank goodness I dont see them around anymore. Just imagine the legal liabilities of darting a deer that might cause a wreck, a bullet usually drops em. Just take a pic.
DIESELkat
01-13-2009, 05:49 AM
Now that you mention it, I think it was reported in Field and Stream or Outdoor Life a year or 2 back if Im not mistaken.
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